Larrytt

The Roar intake consists of two parts. One part is the intake, which is called the Hyper Filter, they are made of Carbon Fiber. The price for the TT is $239, plus shipping. The shipping is very reasonable from $10.75 Pacific to $14.75 East Coast.

The other part of the Intake system is an option, but I think I would try it.

It is called the Hyper-Charger. This actually contains a fan that forces cold air form <b>OUTSIDE</b> the engine compartment past the air filter and into the engine. They claim to have dyno's the system and have gained 10% hp and 10% lb/ft torque! The Hyper-Charge is an additional $249.

I have e-mailed them for more information for the system for the TT. I will post when I get the response.

The company is located in Nevada. The products have a lifetime warranty too!

If the claimed 10% increase is valid I am willing to fork out $500 to boost my TTQ up into the 245hp 310lb/ft torque neighborhood!

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Al in SB

I used to work for Turbodyne and we made electric superchargers (Turbopacs). The math is simple, unless the Roar is pulling about 200 amps it is a waste of time. Your turbocharger compressor needs about 25 hp to produce 1 bar pressure.

RusTTy

I saw the Roar intake in a mag. last weekend and am definitely intrigued.

My major concern: Unless I was misled, it sounded like it pulls air from the intake in the lower front of the car - My problem is what happens when there are puddles on the street and it is raining?

At any rate, it looks wicked, and I agree that 10% for $500 is relatively(being the key word) reasonably priced.


--Rusty

Ted

Not in a million years would I ever do business with this lot again. Beware, BIG TIME!

Joe

The cool air might be helpful, but I would not expect a 10% increase, I think that's optimistic marketing copy. If it's true at all, they observed a 10% increase in a 1985 Ford Escort, or some other car where that only means a few horses.

You could probably find another way to feed the engine cooler, denser air (and one that wouldn't cost you this much)....
--Joe

VAP

in the forums for about a year. Last time I checked there were about 200 "hits" on the Roar and "the art of Roar." I found one "good" report on this system in all of them, and even he said their HP/torque claims are grossly over-rated. Some say no difference at all, and a few say a loss in HP. They rest of them run from bad to worse. They are notorious for sending no instructions whatsoever for installation and NOT taking phone calls if the need arises. This is not a very realistic way to gain HP/torque. And this is not a very customer-sensitive company. Sounds good, all Hollywood and glitzy but its snake-oil sold from a horse-drawn cart. All hype and zero substance. If this system was all its touted to be surely at least one of the major auto manufacturers would be adapting it into use on production cars. It's a very dollar-wise enhancement from a $-HP standpoint if it were true or even worked. Its not true... it wont work.

"If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is."
Steer clear of this one Larry. No good will ever come of it.

Larrytt

Joe:

This is off their website. I don't know them from Adam, but I am willing to take a look. All i did was read the website and I also talked to someone that has talked to Wetterauer. Wett is the one that did the TT in European Car and they are going to also be selling the intake. Wett said they had the TT on a dyno and saw the increased hp numbers also.


Automobile: 99 Bmw M3
Ambient daytime temp: 96degrees summertime with no humidity

Stock: 200 torque and 199.5 hp
K&N charger intake: 202 torque and 205 hp
ROAR Hyper intake: 222 torque and 216 hp

TEST CONDITIONS:
The 1999 Bmw e36 was warmed up for a half hour then strapped on the Dynojet for a baseline stock profile. Idling between test runs, we replaced the factory airbox with a K&N and then with ROAR. To make conditions more real, each test was conducted with the hood down.

RESULTS: Notice that Rear wheel horsepower measures less than you might expect! That's because measurment at the rear wheels is approximately 15-20% less on a vehicle measured at the engine crank flywheel . Front engine, rearwheel driveshaft drivelines absorb 20% and front drive and midengines with transfer cases absorb 15% power from the wheels. Considering percentages when the dyno is used as a instrument. The Roar system scores much higher than your average charger system.

Consider a ROAR intake at lower elevation, somewhere when humidty is present. This denser flow will allow the engine to stack up even more power with the assistance of ROAR.<p><a href="http://registry.audiworld.com/audi/registry/details.asp?car=3285"><img SRC="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/AudiWorldPics/2000/ttsig.jpg" BORDER=0 alt="Click for Mods"></a>
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Larrytt

<center><img src="http://www.roarinc.com/productbmwdyno.jpg"></center><p>Joe:

This is off their website. I don't know them from Adam, but I am willing to take a look. All i did was read the website and I also talked to someone that has talked to Wetterauer. Wett is the one that did the TT in European Car and they are going to also be selling the intake. Wett said they had the TT on a dyno and saw the increased hp numbers also.


Automobile: 99 Bmw M3
Ambient daytime temp: 96degrees summertime with no humidity

Stock: 200 torque and 199.5 hp
K&N charger intake: 202 torque and 205 hp
ROAR Hyper intake: 222 torque and 216 hp

TEST CONDITIONS:
The 1999 Bmw e36 was warmed up for a half hour then strapped on the Dynojet for a baseline stock profile. Idling between test runs, we replaced the factory airbox with a K&N and then with ROAR. To make conditions more real, each test was conducted with the hood down.

RESULTS: Notice that Rear wheel horsepower measures less than you might expect! That's because measurment at the rear wheels is approximately 15-20% less on a vehicle measured at the engine crank flywheel . Front engine, rearwheel driveshaft drivelines absorb 20% and front drive and midengines with transfer cases absorb 15% power from the wheels. Considering percentages when the dyno is used as a instrument. The Roar system scores much higher than your average charger system.

Consider a ROAR intake at lower elevation, somewhere when humidty is present. This denser flow will allow the engine to stack up even more power with the assistance of ROAR.<p><a href="http://registry.audiworld.com/audi/registry/details.asp?car=3285"><img SRC="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/AudiWorldPics/2000/ttsig.jpg" BORDER=0 alt="Click for Mods"></a>
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danTT

This seems like the most practical solution for a TT intake modification. No?

Al in SB

Remember that the key limit to power and torque is the wastegate on a turbo motor. Cooler air helps but pressurizing the turbo is for naught because the waste gage will just open sooner. Don't forget the parasitic drag on the alternator and the fact that all compressors RAISE the air temp.