Reliability of new models?
04-24-2006, 07:46 AM
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Reliability of new models?
Can some new owners comment on this please.
If we consider a new model TT, say 2005 on, what is the general comment as to the reliability compared to a Japanese car like say Honda or Toyota? Can we (or should we)expect much difference in the amount of general repairs, failures or servicing required?
Toyota is pretty good considering the price.
If we consider a new model TT, say 2005 on, what is the general comment as to the reliability compared to a Japanese car like say Honda or Toyota? Can we (or should we)expect much difference in the amount of general repairs, failures or servicing required?
Toyota is pretty good considering the price.
04-24-2006, 07:50 AM
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The only cars that will give you Honda or Toyota reliability are Hondas and Toyotas.
But they're not nearly as fun to drive (or to look at, IMO).
The newer TTs seem to have fewer bugs than the older ones, but they'll never be as reliable as their Japanese 'competition'.
At least, not an any examples that I've seen.
What are you looking at that Honda and Toyota offer that compares to the TT?
I'm not really seeing anything in the same category, except maybe the s2k.
The newer TTs seem to have fewer bugs than the older ones, but they'll never be as reliable as their Japanese 'competition'.
At least, not an any examples that I've seen.
What are you looking at that Honda and Toyota offer that compares to the TT?
I'm not really seeing anything in the same category, except maybe the s2k.
04-24-2006, 07:54 AM
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Re: Reliability of new models?
Gimme a break. It is likely generally agreed that German cars are more expensive to maintain than a Japanese car.
A CPO 2005 TT would have free service for the remainder of its 4 year 50,000 mile warranty. After that it would be at market prices to service and maintain.
A CPO 2005 TT would have free service for the remainder of its 4 year 50,000 mile warranty. After that it would be at market prices to service and maintain.
04-24-2006, 08:01 AM
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Not really 100% accurate, Chris. I believe you'll find that...
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04-24-2006, 08:07 AM
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Meh. The consumer reports ratings are all about the same. What's the real difference between...
...1 defect and 2? [EDIT]
I'd be more concerned about how well the specific dealership treats you. There is a much bigger variation between dealers than between brands.
To be sure, dealerships come and go...
"An analysis of our Annual Car Reliability Surveys over the past five years shows that overall problem rates have reached a plateau for newer cars, especially Asian makes. It could indicate that the most reliable new cars have reached a practical limit as to how trouble-free they can become.
According to our latest (2005) subscriber survey, Japanese and Korean vehicles still have the fewest problems on average: 12 problems per 100 vehicles. This number, however, has held steady for the newest models since 2002, when they improved from 15 problems per 100 in the previous year. On average, Asian vehicles are by far the most reliable, but their improvement has slowed.
U.S. makes had been edging closer to the Asians in reliability, but they, too, have stalled. In our latest survey, domestic makes had an average problem rate of 18 problems per 100 vehicles, not that different from last year's 17. The rate has been about the same since 2003.
European makes, recently the most unreliable overall, remained steady at 21 problems per 100 vehicles. They have had either 20 or 21 problems per 100 vehicles in each of the past four years."
"On average, five-year-old Asian vehicles had 44 problems per 100 vehicles; American, 89 per 100; and European, 97."<ul><li><a href="http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/reliability/reliability-trends-406/overview.htm">http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/reliability/reliability-trends-406/overview.htm</a</li></ul>
I'd be more concerned about how well the specific dealership treats you. There is a much bigger variation between dealers than between brands.
To be sure, dealerships come and go...
"An analysis of our Annual Car Reliability Surveys over the past five years shows that overall problem rates have reached a plateau for newer cars, especially Asian makes. It could indicate that the most reliable new cars have reached a practical limit as to how trouble-free they can become.
According to our latest (2005) subscriber survey, Japanese and Korean vehicles still have the fewest problems on average: 12 problems per 100 vehicles. This number, however, has held steady for the newest models since 2002, when they improved from 15 problems per 100 in the previous year. On average, Asian vehicles are by far the most reliable, but their improvement has slowed.
U.S. makes had been edging closer to the Asians in reliability, but they, too, have stalled. In our latest survey, domestic makes had an average problem rate of 18 problems per 100 vehicles, not that different from last year's 17. The rate has been about the same since 2003.
European makes, recently the most unreliable overall, remained steady at 21 problems per 100 vehicles. They have had either 20 or 21 problems per 100 vehicles in each of the past four years."
"On average, five-year-old Asian vehicles had 44 problems per 100 vehicles; American, 89 per 100; and European, 97."<ul><li><a href="http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/reliability/reliability-trends-406/overview.htm">http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/reliability/reliability-trends-406/overview.htm</a</li></ul>
04-24-2006, 08:13 AM
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what?
Jap cars are pretty good. Ive had a few and apart from the usual service its fairly rare I/we have any problems at all. All the Japs seem about the same. Cant say the same for the Korean ones as they are designed for cost down down down. urg.
I suspect the higher volume production cars have better reliability due to the larger R&D effort (budjet).
Starting to move to the German models now because I like the finish and attention to detail.
I suspect the higher volume production cars have better reliability due to the larger R&D effort (budjet).
Starting to move to the German models now because I like the finish and attention to detail.