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Old 08-05-2003, 06:08 PM
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Default Shifting new TT

I'm new to driving standard transmissions. When shifting my TT I'm finding it's hard to get smooth shifts. Do you have to put the clutch all the way to the floor to ensure it's fully engaged? I don't want to burn it out any faster than needed, but I found that I get smoother shifts if I press it down only a little way, then change gears.

How far do I have to depress the clutch to get smooth shift, but not prematurely burn it out?
Old 08-05-2003, 06:28 PM
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Default Probably not so much the clutch....>

But getting used to the turbo characteristics of this engine. They can be difficult to shift smoothly, especially with a stock (or faulty) diverter valve. Upgrading that part will make transitions much smoother....
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Partially depressing the clutch is hard on the synchros
Old 08-05-2003, 07:31 PM
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Default So reassure me fellas.

I need to make sure I fully depress the clutch to avoid messing up the syncros. But to get smoother shifts I need to find the sweet spot by just driving more and getting used to a turbo...correct?
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Default It's all about rev matching.

If you can guess what the rpm is for any particular gear at a given time, then your shifts will be as smooth as a baby's backside. Just a side note, it is good to get into the habbit of depressing the clutch all the way down every time you shift. -Doug
Old 08-05-2003, 09:27 PM
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Default Could you be letting the engine speed fall off too much when you take the extra time to fully...

depress the clutch? I know with myself even after a year of driving this car (which makes 2 years total manual driving experience) I'll sometimes not push it enough and get the "pop...snick" when changing gears, other times I'll push the clutch in too long/far and end up slipping it alot when trying to match the speed next gear.

Do you mean smooth shift as in the transmission is being clunky moving the shifter in and out of the gears or that you find yourself bucking/bogging the car?
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Default Here's a trick for you

When you shift up through the gears you want your revs to match what they should be for the new gear when you let out the clutch. Shifting 1st to 2nd is about a 1500rpm difference. So if you shift at 4500 in 1st you'll be at about 3000 in 2nd. 2 -> 3, 3 -> 4, 4 -> 5 are all about a 1000rpm drop off. 5 -> 6 is about 500 rpm. You really want to be getting into gear and letting the clutch out as the revs get to the new target. As you let the clutch out start getting on the gas at the same time. After awhile you'll be able to feel how much gas you have to feed in to smooth out the clutch engagement.
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Default Agreed, I actually learned stick on this car, and it took a while to get used -->

to the turbo. Have had it probably 8 months and in the last few months have really gotten the smooth thing doing. Practice. Lots of practice.

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Default Do you have the A/C on? This little motor is a completely different animal w/ the A/C on or off.

In normal driving around town you have to give it a little throttle on the upshifts or it will momentarily bog a little when you engage the gear. This is the first car w/ which I have ever had to do this.
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Default Update... posted that too late and screwed it up.

2nd to 3rd is the bigger (1500rpm) jump. 1st to 2nd is only like 750 or something. Downshifting smoothly from 3rd to 2nd used to give me problems because you have to blip the throttle more than between any other gears.


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