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Old 04-22-2006, 03:27 PM
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Default Taillight bulb question. P21/5W vs 1157?

What's the difference. The taillight says <a href="http://www.donsbulbs.com/cgi-bin/r/b.pl/p21%7c5w.html">P21/5W</a> on it, but for some reason I had been looking for an <a href="http://www.donsbulbs.com/cgi-bin/r/b.pl/1157.html">1157</a> (I guess I got the info here?) According to <a href="http://www.donsbulbs.com/">Don's Bulbs</a> they have the same base (BAY15D), so what's the difference? I guess looking @ the list below, the 1157 is supposed to be brighter, but the P21 lasts longer. The 1157 also draws a bit more juice. Though the reason I am curious about this is cos I found some <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8041594133">1157 LED bulbs</a> (yeah, I know, they won't be bright enough, yadda yadda yadda) that I would like to try, which actually makes me less worried about the amperage.


<blockquote><b>P21-5W/12V/21W/5W/BAY15D ECE bulb specifications:</b>
category: MINIATURE
volt: 12
amp: 1.75 / .417
watt: 21 / 5
base: BAY15d - Double Contact Index Bayonet
glass: S8
filament: C6/C6
fil.res.: 6.86 / 28.8 ohm
m.o.l.: 2 inches
l.c.l.: 1.25 inches
i.lumens: 264 / 75.4
cp: 21 / 6
d.hours: 1000 / 200
notes:
automobile lamp
clear glass
FOR 6 VOLT USE: 1154 USA
FOR NEAR SUBSTITUTION USE: 1034 USA
indicator lamp
incandescent
stop lamp
tail lamp

<b>1157 USA bulb specifications:</b>
category: MINIATURE
volt: 12.8 / 14
amp: 2.5 / .214
watt: 32 / 3
base: BAY15d - Double Contact Index Bayonet
glass: S8
filament: C6/C6
fil.res.: 5.12 / 65.4 ohm
m.o.l.: 2 inches
l.c.l.: 1.25 inches
i.lumens: 402 / 37.7
cp: 32 / 3
d.hours: 600 / 5000
notes:
automobile lamp
clear glass
incandescent
motorcycle
stop lamp
tail lamp</blockquote>
Old 04-22-2006, 04:11 PM
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Default They're the same, only different...

1157 is a US designation, P21/5W is a European designation. They're slightly different in specs, but interchangable for this application.

A closer US cross is a 7528, but that's probably less common in the US than a real P21/5W.

Note that the usual LED bulbs will NOT work properly with reflectors designed for incandescent bulbs.
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<center><img src="http://www.maxspeed-motorsports.com/maximages/360LED10.jpg"></center><p>They have an omni directional design to them. Having played with LEDs I know that even supposed 'wide angle' LEDS aren't, but these bulbs are actually cylindrical in shape with the LEDs mounted around the outside and on the end.
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still don't get anywhere near the small source of a bulb. Still, probably OK for taillamps or other non-beam applications.
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Default True, I expect they will still have an odd speckly directional effect.

Oh &amp; thanks for the info. Glad to know they won't explode or anything. ;^)
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hijack: is that taillight on purpose in your sig, or did it just show up there?
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Default Heh...it's on purpose. If you look closely you can see the silhouette of the car.

Just kind of a carryover from previous sigs.<ul><li><a href="http://homepage.mac.com/maxhedrm/TTSigs.html">http://homepage.mac.com/maxhedrm/TTSigs.html</a</li></ul>
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