Just saw the new TTs for the first time yesterday. . .
06-18-2007, 12:42 PM
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Just saw the new TTs for the first time yesterday. . .
I have to admit that I'm not very keen on the new design. Of course, I'm biased having owned a 2001 225Hp Roadster. The new cars are showing signs of Banglism, of which I'm not a big fan. Also, the new interior has plastic trim instead of aluminum. Sorry to see that.
Was thinking of a new roadster, but may just go find a used 05 or 06. Should be cheaper now that the new cars are out there.
Too bad the Mk1 doesn't have the driving dynamics as the new car. Oh well, that's what the aftermarket guys are in business for.
Was thinking of a new roadster, but may just go find a used 05 or 06. Should be cheaper now that the new cars are out there.
Too bad the Mk1 doesn't have the driving dynamics as the new car. Oh well, that's what the aftermarket guys are in business for.
06-18-2007, 12:50 PM
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too each his own, but "banglism" LOL! i dont see how.
I think it is funny that whenever a new car comes out, whether it be a Mercedes, Audi, Lexus, etc, it has some "Banglism" too it. He has had one bad design and tha t was the rear of the 7 series but that has been fixed a few years ago. the only knock I have on BMW's is the interiors dont go well with flamed surfacing. Love him or hate him, his influence on transportation design is undeniable and audi would kill to have BMW's sales numbers in the past year.
For your comments on the MKII, the interiors are kindof night and day different, plastic trim traded with more comfort imo.
For your comments on the MKII, the interiors are kindof night and day different, plastic trim traded with more comfort imo.
06-18-2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: too each his own, but "banglism" LOL! i dont see how.
Agree that his design philosophy has had a major affect on the industry. Unfortunately, Audi has always been a design trend setter, that is until now. Maybe that's why AoA got rid of the "Never Follow" campaign? Just my $0.02.
As far as the interior goes, why couldn't they have both comfort and style (i.e.) aluminum trim instead of plastics?
As far as the interior goes, why couldn't they have both comfort and style (i.e.) aluminum trim instead of plastics?
06-18-2007, 02:04 PM
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well i dont see how they could really incorporate more aluminum trim on to the center counsel
the layout is SO different compared to the MKI's. It is much more involving for the driver and occupant and a much great "cockpit" style seating/driving experience imo. I think audi got rid of the never follow campaign because it was boring as well. BTW, the new BMW CS conept is absolutely gorgeous and can only hope that car manufactuers copy that well into the near future.
06-18-2007, 02:28 PM
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Roadster Interior....
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... recently sat in a new TT Roadster interior just like the pic above. Seats, driving position, ergonomics, design and build quality are all flawless IMHO.
Take a second look at the extended leather package, and especially Baseball Optic.
Sure, updating the MK1 interior was a huge undertaking, but I think the new cockpit is, overall, an improvement. Especially if you're into performance driving.
And yes, the original TT also had faux-aluminum too.
The only disappointment for me is the aluminum-look air vents, which look and feel cheaper than the original. But that's hardly a reason to dismiss the entire car.
... recently sat in a new TT Roadster interior just like the pic above. Seats, driving position, ergonomics, design and build quality are all flawless IMHO.
Take a second look at the extended leather package, and especially Baseball Optic.
Sure, updating the MK1 interior was a huge undertaking, but I think the new cockpit is, overall, an improvement. Especially if you're into performance driving.
And yes, the original TT also had faux-aluminum too.
The only disappointment for me is the aluminum-look air vents, which look and feel cheaper than the original. But that's hardly a reason to dismiss the entire car.
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06-18-2007, 02:56 PM
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<center><img src="http://gallery.audiworld.com/albums/album265/TTR060033.jpg"></center><p>I think the Bangle reference is a little simplistic and not entirely fair concerning the new TT.
Yes, the 'dynamic line' (incorporated into all De Silva era Audi's) that starts as a rocker panel and gracefully transitions into a rear bumper utilizes some 'flame surfacing', but it's a far cry from Bangle's designs.
Remember, Bangle's early works were criticized for being disjointed, fussy, overly complex, badly proportioned, and just plain ugly. The worst offender was the latest 7 Series (before the facelift).
The new TT's design is almost the exact opposite of Bangle's initial work. The MK2 uses as few carefully placed lines as possible to contour the car. Notice how the rear hatch seam blends into the license plate surround with a single stroke.
Of course, later BMW's have faired better in the design department. Their recent concept work is amazing. But I think Audi's simpler, more cohesive design philosophy still has the edge for me.
But to each his own. There's nothing wrong with loving the original TT's ground-breaking design. But it would be a shame to miss out on the new model's brilliance because of an inability to see beyond late 90's retro-future design.
Yes, the 'dynamic line' (incorporated into all De Silva era Audi's) that starts as a rocker panel and gracefully transitions into a rear bumper utilizes some 'flame surfacing', but it's a far cry from Bangle's designs.
Remember, Bangle's early works were criticized for being disjointed, fussy, overly complex, badly proportioned, and just plain ugly. The worst offender was the latest 7 Series (before the facelift).
The new TT's design is almost the exact opposite of Bangle's initial work. The MK2 uses as few carefully placed lines as possible to contour the car. Notice how the rear hatch seam blends into the license plate surround with a single stroke.
Of course, later BMW's have faired better in the design department. Their recent concept work is amazing. But I think Audi's simpler, more cohesive design philosophy still has the edge for me.
But to each his own. There's nothing wrong with loving the original TT's ground-breaking design. But it would be a shame to miss out on the new model's brilliance because of an inability to see beyond late 90's retro-future design.
