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Old 12-10-2001, 04:39 PM
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alrighty....just curious to what everyone thinks.
How much horsepower do you think is enough?
Consider this question for a normal driver. Not someone that does a lot or any racing of any sorts.
150?
200?
250?
300?...
Just wondering.

To answer my question...I think somewhere around 250 is PLENTY. More than I can handle. 200 is already a lot.
Cars with 300 or more or even 400....
why? I can imagine that it's cool to get on a freeway and stomp on the gas and be up at 60-70 in a few seconds...but then you'll just have to hit the brakes unless you like the taste of bumper in your mouth.
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250hp (nt)
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Default Power to weight ratio more important. In the words of Colin Chapman ( Lotus founder )

"add lightness."
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In a Tahoe you need 280HP or so. 200 and you couldn't pass anyone
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Very true. My answer below assumed an A4.
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Default I want to go faster than the speed of light so I can pass the

beam from my headlights.
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Default Re: When is enough ENOUGH?

My simplistic answer is the amount of horsepower and torque that gets you the performance numbers you want. If you are comfortable with 7 to 8 second 0-60 and 15 to 16 second 1/4 mile, then 200-220 should be adequate for the A4.

But with its added weight from previous models, I would think that 250-260 hp would be the sweet spot for me. That's just me and not everyone else.
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weight. You have to include that into the equation when considering what's a decent accelerating car. Not just horsepower should be considered, but probably the ratio; horsepower/weight.

Today's cars are weighing more and more than yesterday's cars, so although the horsepower is increasing, their acceleration is staying about the same for the most part.
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Default Yup ! I would toss out the interior and sandblast away all the sound deadening.

Use lightweight Recaro seats, make the A/C manual ( get rid of as much dash gizmology as possible and put in digital race display ,) ditch getting a sunroof, put in plexiglass side windows with straps to hold them up, gut the bumpers and leave the shells, use 16 or 17 inch lightweight ( less than 20lbs ) wheels, take out the carpeting in the trunk, move the battery to the rear and remove the stereo.

Install a reinforced clutch, revised gear ratios w/6spd, 240hp KO4 upgrade, and get serious brakes.

Of course, the thing is to do it to an Avant and be stealthy about changing the outer appearance.
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250 sounds pretty reasonable, 300+ would be pretty nice though...put that quattro to the test.


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