I'm with you. One can get adequate cats, do some mechanical work, and have something that will run for a few winters sufficiently, without poisoning the rest of us and, frankly, cheating.

As noted, most rattling cats do not require replacement anyway

Grant

 

Get off your high horse on the green front, your driving a 10 yr old V8,

 

This response is threaded incorrectly in the thread. Please take the time to reply to post that you are referencing. This thread is a mess.

 

Aha. A thoughtful brain surgeon. Bad start to your contributions here.

Grant

 

yeah i just did the new emissions check. took about 3 days for the monitors to set after clearing codes. i hope the spacers work for you or it could be expensive.

 

Just because the cats are below efficiency, does not mean that the car is polluting the environment like a diesel transport truck.

My A6 has cat efficiency codes for both banks with one cat having burned out. It still passes emissions based on the tailpipe emissions at idle and at cruising speed.

This year we're switching to readiness codes for emissions testing, hence the spark plug non-foulers will be going on my A6.


I dont know why you tak this so personally, but at some point, any car will lose its value to the point where spending on repairs is approaching the value of the car if not exceeding. Regardless of whether it's a german luxury or a honda.

 

This is just a general comment, not directed at you, Grant. I have respect for you (and many others on this forum).

My observation, for what it's worth. Your comment made me think of it, that's all.

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Seriously guys, having cars that pollute is not fun, but think about the global scheme of things. here we're discussing cars that will emit greater pollution than optimally-tuned car, BUT not enough to violate state laws (hopefully).

what about all the modded cars with gutted DPs? guys with offroad pipes?

however, all those tuned cars put together still combine into a negligible amount of pollution in the big scheme of things.

there was an article done by MTO (Ministry of Transportation of Ontario), a PDF doc that i lost, really wish i saved it, where 90% of vehicle pollution comes from transport trucks and other machinery on the roads. not personal vehicles.

then there are diesel trains. and look up the emissions of cargo ships. you'll be truly blown away by what and how much spews out of those ships.


and frankly, we won't solve any pollution issues in the world by address the drip in the faucet but ignoring the fact that the sewage pipe is just open into our back yard.

i am a conscious citizen of the planet, and i don't litter, or pollute, i try to recycle as best i can, but there is much common sense needed.

not every situation requires buying into the mentality of green peace (the organization).

 

Very good point and observation GTA_Driver, good thing plants and trees need that co2 to live releasing oxygen so we can live, this balance is the concern we all should respect and agree on

 

I'm not taking it personally, just trying to point out that if the car is not worth the repair then it should not be hung into someone else. Part it out or trade it in so that it can be dealt with properly. You know a dealer can't sell one with the cats burned out or at least they shouldn't. It took years to get rid of "the brown LA haze" and I don't want it back. Nothing personal directed to anyone on this forum. Some of you are not old enough (here he goes, the old fart) to remember how bad air pollution really was. I'm just saying.......

 

I read an article once that asserted that a teaspoon of raw gasoline spilled on the ground did more to harm our environment than a typical, modern engine did while idling for X hours. I don't remember the number, but it was definitely a positive integer.

I have a feeling that if you're so hell-bent on your quest to save the environment that you're willing to make enemies out of friends in the process, then you are barking up the wrong tree.

If driving a ridiculously efficient V8 engine without cats is enough of an offense to give rise to your above response, you must be sending mail bombs to all the 2.7T guys driving their cars with misfire codes or running VTA EVAP and CCV systems.