Craig283

Hi all I am from Nelson N.Z. and my car does not stay asleep and drains battery.
It has a new Audi Varta battery and has been coded, when you turn the key off and car haz light goes off you hear a click behind dash "at this time clock and date resets itself" then draws 2 amps then up to 8 amps as radio tuner nav etc start runs for about 10 secs then stops minimal drain wait a minute and the process starts again and does eventually completely drain the batt in 2 days.
Has been to the v.w dealer here "they do not know anything re A8 and nearest audi is 500 kms away " and supposed euro spec for 20 days in total and have had no luck with it so I have brought ross tech myself after reading through the forums I figured I would need it.
Component protective active only comes up sporadically since the last mechanic had the car but it is not in all scans and the problem was their before that happened any advice would be greatly appreciated many thanks in advance.

Craig283

Hi sorry attached the scan but here it is


Friday,07,August,2015,15:42:57:05534
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20150729
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WAUZZZ4E94N014220 License Plate:
Mileage: 118640km-73719mi Repair Order:


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Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 19 1E 25 28 34 36 38 42 46
47 4F 52 53 55 56 57 61 62 72 76
VIN: WAUZZZ4E94N014220 Mileage: 118640km-73719miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 1010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 077-910-560-BFM.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 560 Q HW: 4E0 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0030
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUX3Z0CN227012
Coding: 0011773
Shop #: WSC 05050 824 86492
VCID: 2F6D4197BE08D246FF-807A
1 Fault Found:
17981 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144)
P1573 - 004 - Open Circuit
Readiness: 0000 0100
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09E-927-156.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 E HW: 09E 927 156 A
Component: AG6 09E 4,2L5V RdW 0110
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: 0023450
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2447BEBBE7CE611E12-8070
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A HW: 4E0 614 517 A
Component: ESP 5.7 allrad H29 0420
Coding: 0008597
Shop #: WSC 37539 000 00000
VCID: 2149B7AFF8DC743679-8074
No fault code found.
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 L
Component: FBS AUDID3 H10 0190
Revision: 01904910 Serial number: AUX3Z0CN227012
Coding: 0411648
Shop #: WSC 63861 741 64146
VCID: 58BFDA4BEB06F5FE4E-800C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
No fault code found.
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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory BFS H07 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 4063328
Shop #: WSC 02353 785 00200
VCID: 2345BDA7E2C066266B-8076
No fault code found.
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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 729 D HW: 4E0 035 729 A
Component: Interfacebox H43 0210
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 347KR037501176
Coding: 0000108
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2959AF8F80ECBC7621-807C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 609 C
Component: Bedienteil MMI H42 0100
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 321LH047504034
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 7420.01.0500000000221B0121ÿ
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 1B0121ÿ
1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 97
Mileage: 118614 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:20
Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 10

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 HW: 4E0 820 043 A
Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT 016 0240
Revision: 00000022 Serial number: 00000000029566
Coding: 1135185
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 5ABBC043950AE7EE78-800E
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4E0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 G HW: 4E0 907 279 G
Component: ILM Fahrer H12 0170
Coding: 0123001
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 2C57569B8F1EA95EDA-8078
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E2 910 113 B
Component: Wischer WWS D3 H30 0370
Coding: 00000035
Shop #: WSC 02311
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH07 0020
Coding: 00150573
Shop #: WSC 02311
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 655 HW: 4E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0940
Coding: 0430707
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 63C5FDA7A24026262B-8036
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 549 HW: 4E0 953 549
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H12 0040
Coding: 0112141
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 65C1E3BFAC745816C5-8030
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H03 0070
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 900 HW: 4E0 920 900 E
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H44 0080
Revision: D13 Serial number: AUDID3CN020289
Coding: 0000923
Shop #: WSC 05030 824 90822
VCID: 5CB7C65B9F3E19DE6A-8008
1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 97
Mileage: 118614 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:01:51

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4E0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 HW: 4E0 907 468 A
Component: Gateway H07 0070
Revision: 07 Serial number: 14003039152310
Coding: FCFE7FDC2B0504
Shop #: WSC 05030 824 90822
VCID: 65C1E3BFAC745816C5-8030
1 Fault Found:
00459 - Control Module for Display and Input; Front (J523)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 97
Mileage: 118614 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:01:00

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Address 1E: Media Player 2 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 C HW: 4E0 035 111
Component: CD-Changer H43 0330
Revision: 00000501 Serial number: AUZ5ZBC1024745
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 19399F4FD08C2CF6B1-804C
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 L
Component: FBS AUDID3 H10 0190
Revision: 01904910 Serial number: AUX3Z0CN227012
Coding: 0411648
Shop #: WSC 63861 741 64146
VCID: 58BFDA4BEB06F5FE4E-800C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX ELV XXXX
No fault code found.
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Address 28: HVAC, Rear Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 158 HW: 4E0 919 158 A
Component: KLIMA-STG. FOND 015 0210
Revision: 00000014 Serial number: 00000000012645
Coding: 0000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 61C9F7AFB85C343639-8034
No fault code found.
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Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4E0-910-553.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 E HW: 4E0 907 553 E
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H05 4290
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 63861 741 64146
VCID: 2541A3BFECF4981605-8070
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory FS H07 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 4063338
Shop #: WSC 02353 785 00200
VCID: 2345BDA7E2C066266B-8076
No fault code found.
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Address 38: Roof Electronics Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A HW: 4E0 907 135 A
Component: Dachknoten D3 H01 0090
Serial number: 00000328900228
Coding: 0035984
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1D318B5FC4A450D65D-8048
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 HW: 4E2 959 802
Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM005 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 61810 981 12516
VCID: 5EB3CC5389220BCE04-800A
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A HW: 4E0 907 289
Component: Komfortgeraet H03 0030
Revision: 00300003 Serial number: W040310290076
Coding: 0004808
Shop #: WSC 83800 210 01865
VCID: 275DA9B796F88A0637-8072
No fault code found.
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 H HW: 4E0 035 223 B
Component: DSP-High D3/AUX H13 0280
Revision: Dev_D01 Serial number: 00000000567893
Coding: 0000017
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 224BB8A3FDDA6F2E60-8076
No fault code found.
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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A HW: 4E0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H08 0020
Revision: Serial number: 00000000026658
Coding: 0010101
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1E338C53C9A24BCE44-804A
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 HW: 4E2 959 801
Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM005 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 5EB3CC5389220BCE04-800A
No fault code found.
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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 D HW: 4E0 907 801 B
Component: EPB A4EC0230 H03 0230
Revision: --H03---
Coding: 0000533
Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
VCID: 204FB2ABF3D67D3E76-8074
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4E0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 357 HW: 4E0 907 357
Component: Pre-AFS H01 0040
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000004
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 62CBF8A3BD5A2F2E20-8036
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 A HW: 4E0 035 541 A
Component: TUNER Japan H41 0110
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 325JL037501562
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E338C53C9A24BCE44-804A
No fault code found.
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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: 4E0-910-146.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 146 C HW: 4E0 919 146
Component: TV analog TUNER H12 0210
Revision: 00000084 Serial number: 00000000003456
Coding: 0001016
Shop #: WSC 02353 785 00200
VCID: 2149B7AFF8DC743679-8074
No fault code found.
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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 A HW: 4E0 915 181
Component: ENERGIEMANAGER H02 0230
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005111827
Shop #: WSC 37539 001 104857
VCID: 1E338C53C9A24BCE44-804A
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 000 915 105 DL
Component: von VA0 341126Q0YD
Coding: 303030393135313035444C56413033343131323651305944
Shop #: WSC 37539 001 104857
No fault code found.
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 HW: 4E0 959 801 A
Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM005 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 5DB1CB5F842410D61D-8008
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 HW: 4E0 959 802 A
Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM005 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 5DB1CB5F842410D61D-8008
No fault code found.
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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A HW: 4E0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H11 0010
Revision: --.--.-- Serial number: 00000331000220
Coding: 0001008
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2149B7AFF8DC743679-8074
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:50)--------------------------

MP4.2+6.0

A few ideas, none definitive:

1. Is the Nav screen popping up as does this, or do you at least see screen lighting up through the crack in the dash trim when its closed? Is Nav resetting each time to where it goes back to the splash screen with the Audi graphic/image? If so, look for debris around MMI control panel keys, and any sticking buttons.

2. Look at this TSB around a dying radio, even if maybe the temperature part doesn't fit: http://uberlame.com/a6_tsb/Stereo/Ra...%20degrees.pdf

3. Prior TSB alludes to testing MOST optical ring. I have never done it and don't know much about it, but a hunch is something on the ring is acting up/faulty and is creating the issue. The radio is one example. See if others can chime in for help, or do more research there. Similar system is in both C6 (prior generation) A6 and in Q7 if you don't find D3 A8 specific info. I think I remember posts where people have had faulty components and the ring won't let the car go to sleep, killing battery eventually

4. One I remembered that supposedly is only 2007's, but ties to radio and dead batteries. Can nonetheless review and poke into the diagnostics: http://uberlame.com/a6_tsb/Electrica...Dead%20(2).pdf

Craig283

Thanks for the reply
1 no screen is not popping up have not noticed any light on the screen but will check and no mmi is not resetting itself to start up screen


2 will have a look
3 in the hidden menu I quite often have an error standby no most light not sure what that means
4 will have a look at


when this is happening which is all the time a couple of other things also happen
front and rear interior lights are on when doors are opened and the rear heater is on I turn both of these off but they manage to come on again next time entering car


The elow are the modules that are on when car has come out of sleep mode when the click in dash happens car still no key anywhere near


Gateway Installation List: 4E0 910 468
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
which is nearly most things
I have checked the optical ring and all units are okay with key on showing there is no break in the units but not sure if a break occurring in sleep mode for whatever reason could cause it nav gear is removed by way of audi fibre connector as car is japan import and does not work in n.z.
many thanks in advance.

haggisuk

this is a screen shot of doing a MOST fibre loop scan








This is a scan result showing a break in the system

I do however feel that you have a problem with the cluster or the link between gateway and cluster.

Try the things mentioned first though and see what happens

Craig283

Hi thanks for that, yes I have done that and certainly while ignition is on all of the bus says okay and there is no break problem for me is
only happens when car is off
would a break in the link matter if it occurs when car is in sleep mode as in does it require information all of the time
I can post the same screenshot showing no errors ignition off when everything above comes back to life and they still say okay thanks very much in advance.

haggisuk

Try pulling the fuse for the cluster and see if noise stops and battery drain goes away

Craig283

Hi I did this yesterday and at first it did stop haz light was off no noise but then I may of turned ignition on or tried to run scan and then haz light would not go off at all when I rescanned had a truckload of faults will try again tomorrow also found car would not start with out cluster fuse run for a few secs and died also mmi screen goes up but no picture radio etc thanks

haggisuk

Yeah just looked at wiring diagram, fuse 5 also powers the can gateway so thats probably why she wouldn't start and gave you loads of errors.

MP4.2+6.0

Only further add I can suggest given newer replies is to look at the modules on the ring like the radio per the TSB. If you can't find a resolvable issue via VCDS, other old fashioned diagnostic approach would be getting an optical ring bypass connector (posted on previously IIRC) and unplugging a given module to see if issue is then fixed. Units don't just self power down IIRC nor is their power cut via a central relay type set up. They get a command to do so, plus they have to not be messed up internally like the radio electronics TSB as one example.