Ebay MMI software upgrades?
#21
AudiWorld Super User
Wrong. Here are OFFICIAL CD's and OFFICIAL INSTRUCTIONS
That's exactly what this guys who have problem with the update have done. Problem is whom to trust. And you are just adding to that problem with posts like this.
That's exactly what this guys who have problem with the update have done. Problem is whom to trust. And you are just adding to that problem with posts like this.
#22
It is not CP (Component Protection) unless you replaced some modules with used ones. As I told you, you should scan it in order to find which module is causing your problem. Worst case would be MMI Module stacked in Bootloader. I believe there is company in Poland that can fix it for you. Dealer will fix it too, but killing your budget in the process. It is way cheaper to buy Ross-Tech VCDS ($350). You will need it as long as you have any VW group car.
I already have gotten myself VCDS and ran it on the vehicle over the weekend.
Following is just one of many defaults the VAG-Com has detected.
D3 A8 is just too complicated compared to my old Skyline, and makes me thinking of going back to 2,000cc Hyundai Sonata and getting rid of the my beloved A8..
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 P HW: 4E0 035 223 A
Component: DSP-Amp.-High H13 0460
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000008725
Coding: 0000016
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A50B5C285283F485F1
2 Faults Found
02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 142
Mileage: 72348 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.21
Time: 23:52:54
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 142
Mileage: 72348 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.21
Time: 23:52:54
#23
AudiWorld Junior Member
Interesting
Wrong. Here are OFFICIAL CD's and OFFICIAL INSTRUCTIONS
That's exactly what this guys who have problem with the update have done. Problem is whom to trust. And you are just adding to that problem with posts like this.
That's exactly what this guys who have problem with the update have done. Problem is whom to trust. And you are just adding to that problem with posts like this.
Also, I just got my VCDS copy tonight and ran the first diagnostic. Nothing similar to what cooljustin is seeing. Here are the fault codes:
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4E0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 A HW: 4E0 907 468 C
Component: Gateway H07 0040
Revision: 07 Serial number: 030050412914E9
Coding: FCFE7BDD1B2B04
Shop #: WSC 08174 444 53989
VCID: 2643063D9137662ECEF-8073
5 Faults Found:
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 162308 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.09.20
Time: 17:58:57
01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 64
Mileage: 162308 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.09.20
Time: 17:58:57
02076 - Media Player Position 1 (R118)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 60703 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.24
Time: 17:46:13
02230 - Digital Radio (DAB) (R147)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 60703 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.24
Time: 17:50:12
00463 - Control Module for Digital Sound Package (J525)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 60703 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.24
Time: 18:18:23
I'm really curious about those first two since my car has far fewer miles on it than what that reports and I have the service records that show there was no OD rollback. In any case, I'm not really seeing anything here that would point me to a singular failed module. The one thing that does stand out is the distance between the timestamps of the error reports. Does anyone more familiar with these reports see anything interesting?
#24
AudiWorld Super User
+2; I don't get using non-Audi disks. Asking for BIG problems
The Audi disks are cheap--on the order of $20. From the dealer! Why use non-official disks, which on a very good day, MIGHT be a copy of some Audi disk, which MIGHT be from the right geographic region, which MIGHT be the upgrade they say it is, etc. Won't even bother with the copyright infringement lashing; here it's just economic common sense.
Brick the MMI controller and its an uncool two grand. Those are cold hard US dollars. Thats about 100 Audi legit disks. With shipping for the bootleg junk, might even be fewer of the counterfeit disks, and even fewer with a few "wrong" or non-functioning shipments back and forth. Updating Audi software is not just another slam bang iOS tweak or app or Windows update, and you cant just go to Time Capsule or the phone back up and hit "restore." Instead, you go to the service desk and explain shepishly the stupid thing you can't fix now, and then just hand your money over. Or you explain to all the guests in your car (and your spouse/GF...) why you pasted a 7" diagonal whiteboard or some post it notes where the display used to be, how come you think Garmin is really "better" so you went back to it, and you hand everyone a set of (hacked?) two generation old iPods and iPhones and some headphones ("hey, they still work great and I even used A8 wallpaper!"). At least then everyone gets their own tunes! Yep, all for the negative dollars not even saved for the counterfeit disk. Where do I sign up? Oh yeah, eBay Eastern Europe. Got it.
Brick the MMI controller and its an uncool two grand. Those are cold hard US dollars. Thats about 100 Audi legit disks. With shipping for the bootleg junk, might even be fewer of the counterfeit disks, and even fewer with a few "wrong" or non-functioning shipments back and forth. Updating Audi software is not just another slam bang iOS tweak or app or Windows update, and you cant just go to Time Capsule or the phone back up and hit "restore." Instead, you go to the service desk and explain shepishly the stupid thing you can't fix now, and then just hand your money over. Or you explain to all the guests in your car (and your spouse/GF...) why you pasted a 7" diagonal whiteboard or some post it notes where the display used to be, how come you think Garmin is really "better" so you went back to it, and you hand everyone a set of (hacked?) two generation old iPods and iPhones and some headphones ("hey, they still work great and I even used A8 wallpaper!"). At least then everyone gets their own tunes! Yep, all for the negative dollars not even saved for the counterfeit disk. Where do I sign up? Oh yeah, eBay Eastern Europe. Got it.
Last edited by MP4.2+6.0; 09-30-2013 at 09:34 PM.
#25
AudiWorld Super User
#26
AudiWorld Super User
I'm really curious about those first two since my car has far fewer miles on it than what that reports and I have the service records that show there was no OD rollback. In any case, I'm not really seeing anything here that would point me to a singular failed module. The one thing that does stand out is the distance between the timestamps of the error reports. Does anyone more familiar with these reports see anything interesting?
Millage discrepancy is interesting. It seems like your Gateway Module was replaced with used one and still has in its memory codes from the donor vehicle. Gateway has Component Protection but it doesn't show any symptoms like other modules(CD Changer would work for a few seconds and than pause for the next few, MMI Module would shut off music but phone would work, Speech Module would just cancel every command and so on). It might be that update triggered this behavior.
I suggest that you record those faulty codes and delete them. Than you will have only the current ones. Post them here with the MOST ring scan.
Last edited by mishar; 09-30-2013 at 10:09 PM.
#27
No, mine is a stock BOSE system. This CP thing happened after I unsuccessfully installed the first CD (Everything got installed except the last bit, I think it was something to do with MOST, but not really sure.
Thank you Misahr, I will take my ride to the local dealer later on.
#28
AudiWorld Super User
No, mine is a stock BOSE system. This CP thing happened after I unsuccessfully installed the first CD (Everything got installed except the last bit, I think it was something to do with MOST, but not really sure.
Thank you Misahr, I will take my ride to the local dealer later on.
Thank you Misahr, I will take my ride to the local dealer later on.
#29
Thanks TSHong,
I guess it applies the same for the Non-US update CD kits too?! I will try to run the second cd then. The thing is now I am waiting for another CD Player that I bought from Germany since my original CD Player unit sometimes shows "meta data errors" on a screen. I suspect there is a laser optical lens problem with the unit due to its age.
I don't understand why Audi utilizes a Panasonic unit as an OEM, Pioneer or Mcintosh makes a far better sound and less prone to wear & tears. Just my two cents.
I guess it applies the same for the Non-US update CD kits too?! I will try to run the second cd then. The thing is now I am waiting for another CD Player that I bought from Germany since my original CD Player unit sometimes shows "meta data errors" on a screen. I suspect there is a laser optical lens problem with the unit due to its age.
I don't understand why Audi utilizes a Panasonic unit as an OEM, Pioneer or Mcintosh makes a far better sound and less prone to wear & tears. Just my two cents.
#30
I have the same problem on top of the other CP issue on my CD-Unit.
But I have one more default than you have .... >.<
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4E0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 HW: 4E0 907 468 B
Component: Gateway H07 0070
Revision: 07 Serial number: 1500404B060834
Coding: FEFEFFDD2B7504
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: E5CA86FE2CB65030323
6 Faults Found
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 148
Mileage: 71267 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.03.25
Time: 18:44:57
01301 - Control Module for Voice Recognition (J507)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 180
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:01:07
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 180
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:05:09
02077 - Media Player Position 2 (R119)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 180
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:13:28
00463 - Control Module for Digital Sound Package (J525)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 181
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:22:04
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 9
Reset counter: 181
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:26:05
But I have one more default than you have .... >.<
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4E0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 HW: 4E0 907 468 B
Component: Gateway H07 0070
Revision: 07 Serial number: 1500404B060834
Coding: FEFEFFDD2B7504
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: E5CA86FE2CB65030323
6 Faults Found
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 148
Mileage: 71267 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.03.25
Time: 18:44:57
01301 - Control Module for Voice Recognition (J507)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 180
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:01:07
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 180
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:05:09
02077 - Media Player Position 2 (R119)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 180
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:13:28
00463 - Control Module for Digital Sound Package (J525)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 181
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:22:04
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 9
Reset counter: 181
Mileage: 72315 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.20
Time: 15:26:05