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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by enGage
...lasts more than about a second and it seems to me that it takes longer to fill a hydraulic lifter.

I'll run this by my dealer.
You'll get a dirty look if you try to "teach" the dealer anything!
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Lifters can, in fact, fill up quick as that I think.

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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:43 AM
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They've gotten to know me at the dealer and after I have been right and them wrong on a couple of occasions they give me some leeway.
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by aTOMic*
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Lifters can, in fact, fill up quick as that I think...
My past experience says that on a cold start it will take a little longer. My son has a leaky lifter on his Yukon and its starts out with a very noticeable click that gets goes away gradually. Mine is like this: Click, Click, Click, Click, silence.

But, I wouldn't put it past those Germans to have quickly filling lifters!
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 03:48 AM
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The lifter sounds like a diesel engine clatter, can go away after 0.5 to as long as 5 seconds. Pretty much sounds terrible.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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1. Thinner oil, if you are using a thick one (like 15 or 20W50 or even 10W40), assuming no oil burning that is.

2. A can of Risoline or similar solvent right before the next oil change, assuming no oil leaks that is, particularly at seals (as in, these solvents also "clean" out stuff that has sealed up or reduced small leaks over time).

3, If persistent or getting worse after trying above, also look at oil anti drainback valves buried in the V below the intake manifold. Not a commonly documented or diagnosed part, but learned of them way back on C4 2.8 when Audi did a TSB for A4's and A6's. In severe cases, these can act up when hot too with very nasty noises way beyond momentary.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:45 AM
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OK, the blonde wig has come off. Both problems I described about have corrected themselves. The door closer sounds normal again and I haven't heard the cold-starting clacking in weeks now. Go figure.

I suspect one or both will come back, but for now If it ain't broke, don't fix it
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:56 AM
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I'm not sure that west Michigan is that tropical, but could it be as simple as a slight rise in ambient temperature?

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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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Yes and it has been warm lately. 78 yesterday. When it's warm the oil flow more freely, but if I had a leaky hydraulic valve I would think it would drain faster as well. Who knows.
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Looks like 0W-30 would solve clacking even when it is cold. Overnight is a long time and if the lifter is leaking it will leak any oil. Less viscous one will just feel it faster.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:38 AM
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I have this click, clatter noise on start up too. I find it is also totally ambient temperature dependent... Warm night, no clatter. Cold night, clatter.

Indi reckons to change oil next time and should fix issue altogether.
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