2019 RS3 delays and discounts
03-18-2019, 09:28 AM
#111
So since I have actually studied automotive supply, and consulted for one of the pioneers on JIT inventory systems I can tell you the above is not accurate especially with the newer technologies. Paint color changes take almost no time, inventory shortages are very rare unless there is a major issue at which point most large OEM's have redundant suppliers and it very rarely happens and when it does they have ample notice. Also vehicles today are made so they are modular and that adding and removing options doesn't make a major change in the production of a vehicle.
My speculation(could be completely wrong as I have not worked a lot with VAG) from other ordering experience with BMW, Ford, Mazda are that the allocations people thought they had a year ago were merely just a dealer "pre ordering" cars and not actually gaining an allocation. Each allocation is a time slot in the system, the dealer has a few which are dealer sold and a few that are customer sold, dealer sold can be converted to customer sold but hold lower priority. Those who placed early orders potentially never even had an actual allocation on the production schedule, and now that we are close to production those orders got placed on the schedule potentially converting a dealer sold to customer sold. There are cases where they know supply for say a fixed suspension (since specific to a RS3) could delay the build to a later date but most parts on the car that are optional are also on a A3. My specific order was scheduled on the later part of the first run as I didn't want the car too early. My dealer did show me the 4 slots they had with production week est., 2 were customer sold the 2 others were dealer sold not locked which one of those is my car that got converted to customer sold thus moving the dates in a bit but not locked as Audi was still working on the production schedules. Again this is my speculation from what I have seen in other makes I have ordered and my experience when I worked in supply chain ops, for all I know VAG does something really screwy and just draw straws to see who gets a car.
My speculation(could be completely wrong as I have not worked a lot with VAG) from other ordering experience with BMW, Ford, Mazda are that the allocations people thought they had a year ago were merely just a dealer "pre ordering" cars and not actually gaining an allocation. Each allocation is a time slot in the system, the dealer has a few which are dealer sold and a few that are customer sold, dealer sold can be converted to customer sold but hold lower priority. Those who placed early orders potentially never even had an actual allocation on the production schedule, and now that we are close to production those orders got placed on the schedule potentially converting a dealer sold to customer sold. There are cases where they know supply for say a fixed suspension (since specific to a RS3) could delay the build to a later date but most parts on the car that are optional are also on a A3. My specific order was scheduled on the later part of the first run as I didn't want the car too early. My dealer did show me the 4 slots they had with production week est., 2 were customer sold the 2 others were dealer sold not locked which one of those is my car that got converted to customer sold thus moving the dates in a bit but not locked as Audi was still working on the production schedules. Again this is my speculation from what I have seen in other makes I have ordered and my experience when I worked in supply chain ops, for all I know VAG does something really screwy and just draw straws to see who gets a car.
03-18-2019, 10:09 AM
#112
2019 RS3 ordered 1-5-2019
So since I have actually studied automotive supply, and consulted for one of the pioneers on JIT inventory systems I can tell you the above is not accurate especially with the newer technologies. Paint color changes take almost no time, inventory shortages are very rare unless there is a major issue at which point most large OEM's have redundant suppliers and it very rarely happens and when it does they have ample notice. Also vehicles today are made so they are modular and that adding and removing options doesn't make a major change in the production of a vehicle.
My speculation(could be completely wrong as I have not worked a lot with VAG) from other ordering experience with BMW, Ford, Mazda are that the allocations people thought they had a year ago were merely just a dealer "pre ordering" cars and not actually gaining an allocation. Each allocation is a time slot in the system, the dealer has a few which are dealer sold and a few that are customer sold, dealer sold can be converted to customer sold but hold lower priority. Those who placed early orders potentially never even had an actual allocation on the production schedule, and now that we are close to production those orders got placed on the schedule potentially converting a dealer sold to customer sold. There are cases where they know supply for say a fixed suspension (since specific to a RS3) could delay the build to a later date but most parts on the car that are optional are also on a A3. My specific order was scheduled on the later part of the first run as I didn't want the car too early. My dealer did show me the 4 slots they had with production week est., 2 were customer sold the 2 others were dealer sold not locked which one of those is my car that got converted to customer sold thus moving the dates in a bit but not locked as Audi was still working on the production schedules. Again this is my speculation from what I have seen in other makes I have ordered and my experience when I worked in supply chain ops, for all I know VAG does something really screwy and just draw straws to see who gets a car.
My speculation(could be completely wrong as I have not worked a lot with VAG) from other ordering experience with BMW, Ford, Mazda are that the allocations people thought they had a year ago were merely just a dealer "pre ordering" cars and not actually gaining an allocation. Each allocation is a time slot in the system, the dealer has a few which are dealer sold and a few that are customer sold, dealer sold can be converted to customer sold but hold lower priority. Those who placed early orders potentially never even had an actual allocation on the production schedule, and now that we are close to production those orders got placed on the schedule potentially converting a dealer sold to customer sold. There are cases where they know supply for say a fixed suspension (since specific to a RS3) could delay the build to a later date but most parts on the car that are optional are also on a A3. My specific order was scheduled on the later part of the first run as I didn't want the car too early. My dealer did show me the 4 slots they had with production week est., 2 were customer sold the 2 others were dealer sold not locked which one of those is my car that got converted to customer sold thus moving the dates in a bit but not locked as Audi was still working on the production schedules. Again this is my speculation from what I have seen in other makes I have ordered and my experience when I worked in supply chain ops, for all I know VAG does something really screwy and just draw straws to see who gets a car.
Speaking ONLY for myself ............
I'm glad there are guys like you that post and share thoughts even if they might not turn out to be exactly what actually takes place.
Terry
03-18-2019, 10:19 AM
#113
So since I have actually studied automotive supply, and consulted for one of the pioneers on JIT inventory systems I can tell you the above is not accurate especially with the newer technologies. Paint color changes take almost no time, inventory shortages are very rare unless there is a major issue at which point most large OEM's have redundant suppliers and it very rarely happens and when it does they have ample notice. Also vehicles today are made so they are modular and that adding and removing options doesn't make a major change in the production of a vehicle.
My speculation(could be completely wrong as I have not worked a lot with VAG) from other ordering experience with BMW, Ford, Mazda are that the allocations people thought they had a year ago were merely just a dealer "pre ordering" cars and not actually gaining an allocation. Each allocation is a time slot in the system, the dealer has a few which are dealer sold and a few that are customer sold, dealer sold can be converted to customer sold but hold lower priority. Those who placed early orders potentially never even had an actual allocation on the production schedule, and now that we are close to production those orders got placed on the schedule potentially converting a dealer sold to customer sold. There are cases where they know supply for say a fixed suspension (since specific to a RS3) could delay the build to a later date but most parts on the car that are optional are also on a A3. My specific order was scheduled on the later part of the first run as I didn't want the car too early. My dealer did show me the 4 slots they had with production week est., 2 were customer sold the 2 others were dealer sold not locked which one of those is my car that got converted to customer sold thus moving the dates in a bit but not locked as Audi was still working on the production schedules. Again this is my speculation from what I have seen in other makes I have ordered and my experience when I worked in supply chain ops, for all I know VAG does something really screwy and just draw straws to see who gets a car.
My speculation(could be completely wrong as I have not worked a lot with VAG) from other ordering experience with BMW, Ford, Mazda are that the allocations people thought they had a year ago were merely just a dealer "pre ordering" cars and not actually gaining an allocation. Each allocation is a time slot in the system, the dealer has a few which are dealer sold and a few that are customer sold, dealer sold can be converted to customer sold but hold lower priority. Those who placed early orders potentially never even had an actual allocation on the production schedule, and now that we are close to production those orders got placed on the schedule potentially converting a dealer sold to customer sold. There are cases where they know supply for say a fixed suspension (since specific to a RS3) could delay the build to a later date but most parts on the car that are optional are also on a A3. My specific order was scheduled on the later part of the first run as I didn't want the car too early. My dealer did show me the 4 slots they had with production week est., 2 were customer sold the 2 others were dealer sold not locked which one of those is my car that got converted to customer sold thus moving the dates in a bit but not locked as Audi was still working on the production schedules. Again this is my speculation from what I have seen in other makes I have ordered and my experience when I worked in supply chain ops, for all I know VAG does something really screwy and just draw straws to see who gets a car.
03-19-2019, 09:01 AM
#115
2019 RS3 ordered 1-5-2019
How to Track Your Audi Factory Pre-Order .....
Greetings guys,
I was looking on You-tube as usual and stumbled on the below video.
If you have not seen this maybe it will be of some HELP, maybe ???
Terry
I was looking on You-tube as usual and stumbled on the below video.
If you have not seen this maybe it will be of some HELP, maybe ???
Terry
03-19-2019, 10:58 AM
#117
Could be far worse..... Porsche to Restart 911 GT2 RS Production After Cargo Ship Sinks With Cars On Board - The Drive
On another note I received an update today. Build week still confirmed at 1619 and thus far the delivery date has not slipped.
03-19-2019, 02:50 PM
#119
Could be far worse..... Porsche to Restart 911 GT2 RS Production After Cargo Ship Sinks With Cars On Board - The Drive
03-20-2019, 02:50 PM
#120
AudiWorld Member
Well finally heard back from audi usa, production complete April 23, ..so looking better Also signed up for the above program so we will see if we get any updates ect.