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What would happen if I mounted a set of winter wheels/tires without TPMS

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Old 10-28-2008, 06:10 AM
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What would happen if I mounted a set of winter wheels/tires without TPMS
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you get a warning light that can be turned off with a VAG-COM
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Default yes you can turn off with VAG COM, but just know that it is illegal to do so...

...just posting a friendly reminder.
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Where do you see that it's illegal? What law forbids disabling TPMS warning lights?
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illegal to disable the warning light? or illegal to not have TPMS - or both?
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Only if he's using run-flat tires.
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Default It is illegal to disable TPMS...

...so is turning off the light disabling the TMPS? Not sure, maybe not crossing the line but stepping on it?
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You just repeated your statement. Do you have anything that actually says its illegal?
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per the NHTSA <a href="http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/DOT/NHTSA/Rulemaking/Rules/Associated%20Files/TPMS-2005-FMVSS-No138.pdf">FMVSS No. 138</a> and <a href="http://vlex.com/vid/19259739">49 U.S.C. 30122(b)</a>

The first link is the NHTSA requirement to have TPMS. The USC section cited here prohibits knowingly making inoperative a system installed for safety (like removing seatbelts or disabling airbags). I will agree, however, that the USC covers repair facilities, manufacturers, distributors, dealers, etc. but not individuals that have a VAG COM cable, but I don't want to test the limits of USC.
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I definitely agree with you on the NHTSA rulemaking, as it is obviously clear on the requirement of TPMS. However, on the USC section, please note the following:

"Prohibition - A manufacturer, distributor, dealer, or motor vehicle repair business may not knowingly make inoperative any part of a device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle equipment"

This does not indicate anything about the end-user making these adjustments/modifications. True, it is a fine-line, but a line nonetheless. For completeness, and since she likes it when I ask her legal questions, I'm having my wife (a lawyer) look over it.


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