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#21
If your point is that the engine consumes a small amount of fuel when coasting in Neutral (as opposed to coasting in Drive) to maintain idle speed, then yes, I agree with you, and I made that point in my subsequent post.
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The point of coasting was not to save on fuel, but to avoid having to get on the gas (because I came up short) and then on the brake and so on. If done right, I believe you can save a little wear and tear. On my 2006 A3 with about 60k miles, I had plenty of life on the original rotors and brake pads.
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I have an experience with my old M-Class, that may or may not be relevant with the Audi gearbox.
There is a one mile stretch of road between two stop lights near my home, whose slight down slope is such that I can maintain a almost constant 35 mph speed (only) if I put the car in neutral. So that's what I always did. One day I needed to stomp on the brakes to avoid an accident. Then I put the car back in gear and applied gas. But the car revved in neutral, and the gearbox won't engage. I tried again and it revved again. For some 30 harrowing seconds, the car almost coasted to a stand still before getting back in gear.
In retrospect, I guess what happened was that I applied the gas a little too early, and since the engine was spinning above idle, the computer decided not to engage the gearbox. And in my panic, I had not waited long enough for the engine to clam down before trying the gas pedal again, so the computer and I kept waiting for each other.
The moral of the story is, with all these computerized drive-by-wire systems in a modern day car, you can never count on the car to get right in gear when you put it in a situation it was not designed for. A computer not programmed for coasting in neutral can and will behave unexpectedly.
I no longer think coasting in neutral is something one can safely do with a modern day car.
There is a one mile stretch of road between two stop lights near my home, whose slight down slope is such that I can maintain a almost constant 35 mph speed (only) if I put the car in neutral. So that's what I always did. One day I needed to stomp on the brakes to avoid an accident. Then I put the car back in gear and applied gas. But the car revved in neutral, and the gearbox won't engage. I tried again and it revved again. For some 30 harrowing seconds, the car almost coasted to a stand still before getting back in gear.
In retrospect, I guess what happened was that I applied the gas a little too early, and since the engine was spinning above idle, the computer decided not to engage the gearbox. And in my panic, I had not waited long enough for the engine to clam down before trying the gas pedal again, so the computer and I kept waiting for each other.
The moral of the story is, with all these computerized drive-by-wire systems in a modern day car, you can never count on the car to get right in gear when you put it in a situation it was not designed for. A computer not programmed for coasting in neutral can and will behave unexpectedly.
I no longer think coasting in neutral is something one can safely do with a modern day car.
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Checked out the manual and could not find anything explicitly warning against shifting into Neutral while driving. It does state that when stationary or at speeds less than 1 mph, you must apply the brake to shift into Neutral.
I also looked at all the warnings and notes for the transmission and found these three interesting:
Warning: Never shift into R or P while driving. (No mention of N).
Note: Coasting downhill with the transmission in N and the engine not running will result in damage to the automatic transmission and possibly the catalytic converter.
Tips: If you accidentally select N while driving, take your foot off the accelerator pedal immediately and wait for the engine to slow down to idle before selecting D/S.
The Tip seems to suggest that this transmission does not like being shifted into Neutral while driving. I definitely had my foot off the gas prior to "purposely" selecting N, and I'm fairly certain the engine was already at idle when I shifted and got the jolt. I had no problem shifting back to D after the jolt.
I also looked at all the warnings and notes for the transmission and found these three interesting:
Warning: Never shift into R or P while driving. (No mention of N).
Note: Coasting downhill with the transmission in N and the engine not running will result in damage to the automatic transmission and possibly the catalytic converter.
Tips: If you accidentally select N while driving, take your foot off the accelerator pedal immediately and wait for the engine to slow down to idle before selecting D/S.
The Tip seems to suggest that this transmission does not like being shifted into Neutral while driving. I definitely had my foot off the gas prior to "purposely" selecting N, and I'm fairly certain the engine was already at idle when I shifted and got the jolt. I had no problem shifting back to D after the jolt.
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