edsea

Thank You, good point, the purchased warranty was "Platinum" level which covers everything. I will carefully monitor what is offered.

JCG57

Be careful before buying a Q7. Keep in mind that the previous owner(s) will have a claim on 50% of the restitution amount, so you will likely not get the full buyback amount. Also - if the vehicle has a lot of miles relative to its model year, there will be a substantial reduction in the buyback value. And obviously make sure the title is clean.

seattle_q5

To me, this is the 2nd worst part of the proposal after no-buyback option for gen2. I can't believe they gate the most important aspect of the fix by a mere $500 . Also, I don't like the criteria to be used for determining reduced performance. In section 7.5 of the document https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en...%201.31.17.pdf, it says:

For purposes of this section,
Reduced Performance means a change in any of the following performance attributes:
(1) a reduction in calculated fuel economy using the EPA formula of more than 3 MPG;
(2) a decrease of greater than 5% in peak horsepower; or
(3) a decrease of greater than 5% in peak torque.

The performance impacts shall be measured by Volkswagen pursuant to industry standards in connection with its submission of an Emissions Modification Proposal to the EPA and CARB ..

Except for (1), none of the criteria seem to take into account normal, daily driving conditions. How often do you hit the peak HP or torque when driving? With this proposal, there can be a scenario where the fix reduces the performance in normal driving conditions and not being considered as reduced performance. Even worse, impact to average driving conditions may be severe and WW can argue the agreement not mentioning average conditions in that case, avoiding further motions to change the terms etc.

I think they have to take into account at least average HP & torque in addition to these above.

Mythdoc

No, this is incorrect. 2/14 is the legal end of a long negotiation process and will be the final go ahead.

Mythdoc

Let's be careful with our terminology. The new owner will get the full buyback amount, but have to share restitution penalty with any former owner who applies for it. That stands to reduce the total on a Q7 somewhere in the range of $4-5k.

Mythdoc

Engine/transmission mechanics make it quite unlikely that performance would not diminish at the extremes but would at the mid range.

Mythdoc

The best source of information on all this may be found at this massive Club Touareg thread:

VW TDI EPA Recall (2.0L and 3.0L) - Page 89 - Club Touareg Forums

mikemdd

Just got this off the VW website, but maybe it is outdated:

"The agreements covering the proposed 3.0L TDI recall program are subject to the approval of Judge Charles R. Breyer of the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, who presides over the federal Multi-District Litigation (MDL) proceedings related to the diesel matter. The parties have filed preliminary settlement approval documents containing information about the settlement. Those preliminary approval documents are available here . A preliminary approval hearing has been scheduled by the Court for February 14, 2017."

Maybe preliminary approval hearing means approval of the preliminary documents?

Mythdoc

For all practical purposes, 2/14 is the end. That is why these settlement provisions have been released by both then FTC and VW group. Breyer has already blessed them privately.

DubaiRich

Sounds like a sweetheart of a deal!!