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Old 01-09-2006, 06:03 PM
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Some excerpts from the article I just read in EVO on the amazing <b>Bugatti Veyron</b> and the development of its <b>DSG</b> gearbox.

Ricardo, a British company was contracted to develop and produce the unique seven-speed DSG gearbox, front and rear diffs for the AWD transmission and, crucially, its electronic control unit.

Originally the Veyron was going to have a paddle-shift automated manual like the Ferrari's F1 gearbox. But computer models predicted that the combination of <b>1g</b> acceleration and the sudden interruption of power when another gear was being selected would lead to a completely unacceptable jerk for both the driver and transmission.

Development was going well witha Veyron mule (disguised as a Diablo) pounding round MIRA, then in 2003 VW suddenly changed the design parameters.

Originally the engine was to be torque-limited in first gear, but VW announced this was no longer going to be the case. They also increased the tyre's grip value by <b>25%</b>, insisted first gear could run to <b>107Kph</b> (~67Mph) and re-calculated the car's kerb weight upwards.
It all meant a major rethink for Ricardo.

The specification of the steel used for the actual gears was changed to the ultimate, <b>"vacuum arc remelted steel"</b>, four times more expensive than any other type. This was necessary because the torque load during a launch at the rear axle could now reach a whopping <b>10,500Nm or ~ 7800 Ft/Lbs of torque!</b> This was now uncharted territory for a road car.

They ended up with a dry sumped (a first for a road car), seven-speed gearbox with casings made of high-grade aluminium (magnesium wouldn't be strong enough). The gear box needing four separate oil pumps to lubricate the twin clutches and gear clusters, with the multi-plate wet clutches (which should never need maintenance) being doused in up to <b>35 litres of oil/minute!</b> The whole gearbox assembly ended up weighing just <b>122kg</b> (268Lbs) of which <b>22Kg</b> (48Lbs) was the clutches.

The gearchange takes just <b>150 milliseconds!</b>
Old 01-09-2006, 06:08 PM
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:18 PM
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Default I don't think you could tell the different in speed, but...

I have an A3 with a DSG and it's amazing fast and smooth. I use to drive M3 with SMG and that thing is not that smooth.
Old 01-09-2006, 06:25 PM
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im still tryin to think about what 200+ mph would feel like, and not be in a plane lol
Old 01-09-2006, 06:36 PM
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Default True enough, the SMG II is the fastest shifting gearbox but its smoothness is not that great...

The DSG gearbox as already been hailed as the best, and smoothess performing auto/manual box in the automotive world and this of by many car experts and car magazines.

Again to quote the EVO article <b>"That seven-speed DSG gearbox is one of the finest pieces of engineering I've ever sampled in a car, period".</b>
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Default speechless... wow I knew it was impressive...

but when you read about it.... its even more amazing!
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Default Actually DSG is the fastest shifting gearbox.

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Old 01-09-2006, 08:17 PM
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Default Thanks for the info. I thought I had read that it was and was surprised to see it was slower than...

The SMG II gearbox.
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Default Both CAR and EVO have had great articles recently on the Veyron.

I highly recommend picking them up for historical value. . . and the pics are great in both.
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Default Here's the amazing part of 200 mph in a Veyron. . . it takes LESS THAN 60 SECONDS TO GET THERE!

from a dead stop.

Fecking impressive.


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