Originally Posted by aggiealum

OP here: My negotiations weren't over $250. That was another poster. Mine was over $1200, and that's on top of the profit over invoice already offered to me. Not disclosing I had SPP was not intentional. They made their first offers after I filled out a web form. Then I was looking thru work perks and found the SPP. So I brought that up and want to hold them to their original offers. Like you said, they have to run a biz and are not a charity. I did not haggle one bit on their initial offer (all were pretty competitive anyways: <$1K over invoice). Although if I had to do it all over again, I'd do the same thing: I would see what they offered first and then present the SPP. I know the dealers probably weren't happy that they made offers so quickly, but they probably knew I emailed multiple area dealers and no one wanted to lose the sale. I see the SPP as I see Audi Loyalty's $1K rebate: It's for me to use after I negotiate an offer. The dealers were comfortable with the offers they made and I feel I can challenge their integrity if they want more bc I have a rebate. I'm not a charity either. There will be one dealer that I think will have the integrity to accept their offer and give me my rebate. I'm still waiting to get clarity on one offer. I think I am getting the original offer minus the rebate, but I am waiting for them to spell it out before I commit.

Originally Posted by snagitseven

I agree. The Incentives after invoice usually average hundreds, not thousands per car and are based on lots of variables, i.e. meeting quotas, etc. While it's perfectly fine to negotiate to the best price possible, there's a point at which it's not worth arguing. ... Agonizing over a relatively small amount on such a large purchase makes little sense to me if you really want the car.

Originally Posted by well_armed

I didn't read your novel, but the fact of the matter is-- what you did is totally fine. But you also have to accept the fact that their reaction is just as kosher. This is negotiations, they have the right to counter, getting offended means you already lost.

Originally Posted by JackP311

what is spp?

Originally Posted by legbend

My understanding is that it will be easier to make a deal with a car on the lot as well. The longer the car is on the lot, the more it's costing the dealership.

Not sure if that still holds true for all dealerships though.

Originally Posted by helix139

supplier is 6% off MSRP. it's not 6% off a negotiated deal. It really is pretty good pricing. When you use the supplier discount, Audi pays the dealer for around 3% of the 6% discount. loyalty, conquest, etc. can be used in addition to supplier. The rebate to the dealer for giving you supplier pricing is generally not on the table, as it is there to encourage dealers to honor that pricing.