M3 vs S4/S5
05-28-2012, 11:14 AM
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RS5, E9e9, 1LW, N75... Just saying...
05-28-2012, 11:18 AM
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2013 S4/S5 are NOT tune-able! This together with significantly lowered redline makes them much slower than M3. Really in 335 or G37 class performance-wise.
So, until some tuner release a flash for 2013 (hopefully it is possible), S4 cannot be compared to M3 if speed means something for you.
So, until some tuner release a flash for 2013 (hopefully it is possible), S4 cannot be compared to M3 if speed means something for you.
Buy a real transmission and your problem is solved. It will be tune-able within a couple months so it's not worth saying it isn't.
05-28-2012, 11:34 AM
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It's also worth noting that facelift B8.5 S4 is just as fast in magazine tests as the B8 despite your claims.
05-28-2012, 11:41 AM
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It's also worth noting that facelift B8.5 S4 is just as fast in magazine tests as the B8 despite your claims
BTW, check this link - http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4b8/msgs/33249.phtml
Also, highway pulls by real 2013 owner showed 2013 S4 is slower than G37, 2012 was quicker. Maybe this is a problem of one specific 2013 s4, but maybe not.
05-28-2012, 12:08 PM
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It should be as fast in stock, that is obvious. In stock it never uses this extra 500 rpm range due to torque fade off.
BTW, check this link - http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4b8/msgs/33249.phtml
Also, highway pulls by real 2013 owner showed 2013 S4 is slower than G37, 2012 was quicker. Maybe this is a problem of one specific 2013 s4, but maybe not.
BTW, check this link - http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4b8/msgs/33249.phtml
Also, highway pulls by real 2013 owner showed 2013 S4 is slower than G37, 2012 was quicker. Maybe this is a problem of one specific 2013 s4, but maybe not.
05-28-2012, 01:56 PM
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I always thought and read that the stock S4s could take the G37. The 2013 S4 was a supposed to be a face lift, was that changed? Aside from the MMI of course.
05-28-2012, 07:23 PM
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05-28-2012, 09:12 PM
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Thought I'd chime in since I've owned both.
I had a 6MT M3 that was lemoned. It was a stripper, and it cost around $5K more than my pretty loaded S4. The M3 is definitely quicker, but it always felt a little clunky while driving like a responsible adult. It was an awesome car... great steering feel and very neutral handling. But I hated that I had to rev it up to 5K to beat a frickin Accord. On a track, I'm sure it would be awesome (never made it), but on the street for spirited driving, the S4 is a better car. It's much more comfortable (except for the seats) and the low end torque/quattro/differential make the performance much more accessible.
That said, you can't really go wrong either way.
I had a 6MT M3 that was lemoned. It was a stripper, and it cost around $5K more than my pretty loaded S4. The M3 is definitely quicker, but it always felt a little clunky while driving like a responsible adult. It was an awesome car... great steering feel and very neutral handling. But I hated that I had to rev it up to 5K to beat a frickin Accord. On a track, I'm sure it would be awesome (never made it), but on the street for spirited driving, the S4 is a better car. It's much more comfortable (except for the seats) and the low end torque/quattro/differential make the performance much more accessible.
That said, you can't really go wrong either way.