mplsbrian

The B5 S4 was also positioned against the M3 in the market at that time, whereas now (19 years later) the market has changed substantially and that is very much not the case anymore, and nobody is pretending otherwise.

The B9 S4 is designed, marketed, and sold to be competitive against the BMW 440i Xdrive and the Mercedes C43 AMG. Literally nobody -- not any honest dealer, not the Audi marketing team, not a single automotive publication around -- is pretending an S4 today is equal to or even close to an M3 and it is simply ignorant of you to say or think that at all.

If you want to be market-competitive against the BMW M3, Mercedes C63S, etc today you go and you buy an RS4 or RS5 Sportback. This is extremely common knowledge.

All this said, any B9 S4 would smoke the everloving **** out of a stock B5 S4 on the street, the circuit or the strip, and it will be smoother, more comfortable, and get better gas mileage/maintenance longevity while doing it. This is also true of any BMW 340i today against any M3 of almost 20 years ago. Technology has come a long way.

jondin2000

Hey ******* today's rs4 has twin turbo engine B5 s4 had twin turbo or biturbo whatever you want to call it. Audi is selling new rs4 with engine already existed 20 years ago and it was a great engine. It took Audi 20 years to realize that is the engine to compete with their competitors. And the reason I mentioned B5 s4 is because you were talking like I never owned s4 before

mplsbrian

Today’s RS4 makes 420HP factory.
Your previous S4 made...250HP factory? AKA a full 20 horse less than my last naturally aspirated Honda Accord?

And I’m sorry, but just to clarify, you are arguing that these cars have the same engine? I just want to make sure I fully understand that you are really honest to goodness in fact arguing that a vacuum-tube-riddled engine making 170 fewer horsepower is superior to the engine in today’s car.

If so...uh, that’s like, your opinion man. And I’m sure there’s a used example that someone will happily trade you for your B9. Best of luck, sounds like a win/“win”

jondin2000

Of course they not the same they have different engine covers. Of course they not exactly the same but Audi its going back to were it was 20 years ago basically. You guys keep bringing this points about b5s4 I'm not plan9to go were b5s4 was better and were b9s4 is better. Like the other guy before you said that b5s4 couldn't do there runs without heat soak and yet here we 20 years later new b9s4 can't even do 3 runs without heat soak and falling on it ***

tliu91

this is hilarious lol

Zed 2.0

This must be a long-play troll, right? I hope...