N75 vs. MBC only on GIAC Stage 2 Tip
#1
N75 vs. MBC only on GIAC Stage 2 Tip
Logs on just N75. No timing graph. MAF peaks around 260 g/s
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/02values.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/N75Boost.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/N75Boost2copy.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/BoostN75only3copy.jpg">
Logs on MBC only. Timing and MAF included but no O2. (Ran out of gas)
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/Boostquickspool.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/BoostLogss.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/MAFMBCOnly.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/timing1.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/timing2.jpg">
All done about 35 degrees, full weight tip S4 with stereo equipment, less thank 1/8th tank, very flat stretch of road. Notice quicker spool (graphs don't represnt it well but spools quicker in vaccuum, smoother part throttle, more power up top) with MBC only and less taper. Also it takes the same amount of RPM's to boost about 6-7 psi more. Yes I'm spiking 22 psi on K03's, yes I'm crazy. Also on the MBC only runs the throttle % was below 30% for entire duration. I don't know why, I don't have the TCD installed yet, but I wasn't getting throttle cut and the car was pulling hard as hell. Also if someone wants to help me out with TIP FATS, its 4100-6350? Here is my data for that.
38.4 3840
39.32 4240
40.27 4760
41.28 5240
42.33 5680
43.42 6080
44.54 6440
By my estimates it's around 39.0 at 4100 RPM and 44 flat near 6350 RPM, so 5.0 FATS is safe to assume?
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/02values.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/N75Boost.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/N75Boost2copy.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/BoostN75only3copy.jpg">
Logs on MBC only. Timing and MAF included but no O2. (Ran out of gas)
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/Boostquickspool.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/BoostLogss.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/MAFMBCOnly.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/timing1.jpg">
<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/jordanshahin89/timing2.jpg">
All done about 35 degrees, full weight tip S4 with stereo equipment, less thank 1/8th tank, very flat stretch of road. Notice quicker spool (graphs don't represnt it well but spools quicker in vaccuum, smoother part throttle, more power up top) with MBC only and less taper. Also it takes the same amount of RPM's to boost about 6-7 psi more. Yes I'm spiking 22 psi on K03's, yes I'm crazy. Also on the MBC only runs the throttle % was below 30% for entire duration. I don't know why, I don't have the TCD installed yet, but I wasn't getting throttle cut and the car was pulling hard as hell. Also if someone wants to help me out with TIP FATS, its 4100-6350? Here is my data for that.
38.4 3840
39.32 4240
40.27 4760
41.28 5240
42.33 5680
43.42 6080
44.54 6440
By my estimates it's around 39.0 at 4100 RPM and 44 flat near 6350 RPM, so 5.0 FATS is safe to assume?
#2
The throttle % data inside
RPM MAF Throttle %
2440 44.89 16.1
2680 68.56 20
2920 72.5 18.4
3240 83.86 19.2
3560 100.86 20.4
2800 93.11 20
3000 95.78 19.2
3240 110.25 20
3480 150.5 22
3960 252.44 29.8
4440 263.83 31.4
4920 279.61 35.3
5360 286.58 38.8
5800 286.58 38
6160 285.11 37.3
6560 285.64 38.8
2440 44.89 16.1
2680 68.56 20
2920 72.5 18.4
3240 83.86 19.2
3560 100.86 20.4
2800 93.11 20
3000 95.78 19.2
3240 110.25 20
3480 150.5 22
3960 252.44 29.8
4440 263.83 31.4
4920 279.61 35.3
5360 286.58 38.8
5800 286.58 38
6160 285.11 37.3
6560 285.64 38.8
#3
i was like you running +20psi on k03's. There is no point. If you look at the map you do not get any
better performance. I would drop back to 20 that is what they seem to max at(what V***performance set my car to. Me and u have the exact same car mod wise but i have a tcd. My car ran a 5 flat with a driver and a big boy passenger in this high 30* low 40* temp. I also have a hole in the air box. I see no reason why you should not hit a 5 flat.
#5
A couple suggestions for making your charts easier to read.
Keep the units the same for the Y-axis, reporting one set of boost values in mBar and the other in PSI makes comparing data difficult.
Rescale the lower X-axis to 2000 rpm, any lower and it just squeezes the meaningful information into a smaller space.
Use the correct data names in the legend. Series-1 and series-2 doesn't help show what data is being presented.
And a suggestion about making comparisons, include like data. Boost and timing vary closely with one another. It would be useful to see what the timing with the N75 was.
And a question about your observation, if your throttle position was at 30% throughout a pull where you had the accelerator pedal to the floor, why don't you think that is throttle cut?
Rescale the lower X-axis to 2000 rpm, any lower and it just squeezes the meaningful information into a smaller space.
Use the correct data names in the legend. Series-1 and series-2 doesn't help show what data is being presented.
And a suggestion about making comparisons, include like data. Boost and timing vary closely with one another. It would be useful to see what the timing with the N75 was.
And a question about your observation, if your throttle position was at 30% throughout a pull where you had the accelerator pedal to the floor, why don't you think that is throttle cut?
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#8
I don't think it was throttle cut because there was no lag in acceleration or cut in boost.
as far as graphing goes, yes I suck at graphing . I'll clean those graphs up. Thanks for the suggestions. I didn't feel like converting the data into PSI for MBC only because of the fact that the boost didn't matter, it was more for spool characteristics and taper for comparison. I have some timing logs for N75 only, will post them after my hockey game. I'll try to do another log to check out throttle position.