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Where are the chip producers coming up with HP numbers?

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Old 03-09-2000, 07:34 AM
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Default Where are the chip producers coming up with HP numbers?

Just wondering if any one knows where the HP #'s are coming from, from the various chip manufacturers(MTM,APR,Autothority,&TAP). Do they actually take them to a 4 wheel dyno or remove the engine and place it on an engine dyno or are they just using a G-Tech or Vericom type acceleration dynometer or have they taken it to the strip and come up with a time to weight HP conversion. It would be nice to see some concrete Dyno tested #'s not just some speculation on how much this and that chip makes. I don't want to start a war here but I could tell you my yugo chip makes 100hp, would you believe me without wheel horsepower dyno sheets in hand. I just want to see where they are coming up with these #'s. If anyone knows please respond. I know many of you have responded to i.e.(does a chip make my S4 faster) with a resounding yes, but to someone who hasn't experienced it first hand it is impossible
to tell if it's- DAMN I just spent $1000 bucks Yeah It kinda felt faster or Holy Sh*t this thing is supersonic. Please give me some input.
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Default MTM and APR both dyno their cars

I don't know how MTM does it, but APR drops in a welded torsen diff from a Audi 90 and disconnects the center driveshaft so that the car is essentially a FWD car. I think they disable a few electronics too, like ABS/EDL, but I'm going off memory at this point. Brett posted this a while back, look in the archives. Apparently it takes about 45 minutes to convert an A4, but longer for an S4 due to bits and pieces being in the way.

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Uhhm, it will be "Holy Sh*t this thing is supersonic" not at all "Yeah it kinda felt faster"
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Default Re: Where are the chip producers coming up with HP numbers?

MTM actually has 4 dynos. (2) Engine dyno's and (2) 4 wheel chassis dyno's. For most of the bolt-on applications, the chassis dyno's are used. For applications such as a 2.0L stroker kit on a 1.8T, where the engine is out the car allready, then the engine dyno's are used.
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100%, absolutely, definitely, without a shadow of a doubt.... supersonic. Don't even think about it...CHIP!!!!!
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Default Does APR dyno the S4? Brett/APR?

I talked with them a while ago and I thought they told me that they have not dynoed the S4 yet but have used the vericom computer thing (a much better gtech) I could be wrong and would love to know.
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