Long Crank EPC and CEL on, codes?
#11
AudiWorld Senior Member
Ok so fuse the wasn't blown but do you have 12v at the terminal of the fuse and if there is do you have 12v at the connector for the Maf
the reason I ask is that fuse is responsible for everything that has fault on your engine ecu
the reason I ask is that fuse is responsible for everything that has fault on your engine ecu
#12
AudiWorld Super User
Remember that there is no VCDS code for "running out of fuel" so if the primary fuel pump is bad, as in no motor spin when 12 volts is applied, there is no code whatsoever.
I had the old 30 seconds of running after starting then a stall issue. Very consistent. No code present. I use standard automotive troubleshooting techniques to determine it was the fuel pump.that was defective. Actually found a VDO pump at Auto Zone that was 24/7 on a Sunday morning at 2:00 am.
I had the old 30 seconds of running after starting then a stall issue. Very consistent. No code present. I use standard automotive troubleshooting techniques to determine it was the fuel pump.that was defective. Actually found a VDO pump at Auto Zone that was 24/7 on a Sunday morning at 2:00 am.
Also for OP, are you sure your battery is up to snuff? Suggest making sure it is charged up fully, disconnecting (which can sometimes clear weird code issues), and clearing all modules. Clear module by module if you aren't already--the VCDS clear all command does not work as you might think it does. Then if it doesn't resolve, a bunch of the short to ground ones can't easily be explained except by wiring issues or problem with ECU itself. But before getting there, I would want to be sure the data itself is reliable--hence battery focus, systematic code clearing and so on.
#13
Battery was just replaced & is reading 14+ volts. Will start checking fuel system & MAF more closely. Original research of symptoms had me leaning toward fuel pumps til we found HPFP leaking. But of course that was too easy haha
#14
AudiWorld Super User
Still, do full battery disconnect (30 min) and module by module code clear for any with codes to be sure scan data is reliable. Then see what you have.
#16
Can you explain where was the problem? In fuel tank? Fuel pump? Or after the hood?
#17
Haven't been able to get to in depth testing yet - that's on tap for tomorrow. I did clear codes module by module and the same ones came back again. Quick question though - is it normal for the car to stall almost immediately if I remove the oil filler cap?
#18
AudiWorld Super User
No to your question, not normal. Be careful too--suggests to me maybe some kind of big vacuum leak or pull though oil galleries, which can damage key engine seals and turn into a nightmare. As in, best not to drive without figuring that out. Look in particular at oil vapor system for functioning. For a port 4.2 that would be the older style PCV valve; for FSI it is perhaps a fine oil separator set up. I don't know 4.2FSI at that level of detail though.
#19
AudiWorld Senior Member
No to your question, not normal. Be careful too--suggests to me maybe some kind of big vacuum leak or pull though oil galleries, which can damage key engine seals and turn into a nightmare. As in, best not to drive without figuring that out. Look in particular at oil vapor system for functioning. For a port 4.2 that would be the older style PCV valve; for FSI it is perhaps a fine oil separator set up. I don't know 4.2FSI at that level of detail though.
#20
AudiWorld Super User
Fine, but doesn't sound right to me in turn and not my own experience. If anything I find on most motors they are slightly pressurized at idle, not pulling vacuum. You pull vacuum from an intake, not a crankcase, and traditionally PCV valve helps deal with unregulated vacuum pull while burning off oil vapors. Pre PCV valves--that were first basic smog device in 60's--crankcase was vented to atmosphere and not even ties to intake; definitely had nothing to do with vacuum pull. Haven't had reason to check any of mine recently though.
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