Replacing the door speakers
#111
Please disregard what I have said about not being impressed with the Daytons. I guess I made a premature review based on the rear door installation. Now that I have them installed on all 4 doors, it is a night/day difference and I am very happy with the results.
Now I have only the Sub and the rear doors twitters stock from the Audi SS. Planning to try the 6-hole Pioneer to mount on the OEM subwoofer bracket for a cleaner installation and see how it performs without an amp. Any thoughts?
BTW, my rear deck still rattles even with "Dynamat" on both sides. Still couldn't find a permanent solution.
Now I have only the Sub and the rear doors twitters stock from the Audi SS. Planning to try the 6-hole Pioneer to mount on the OEM subwoofer bracket for a cleaner installation and see how it performs without an amp. Any thoughts?
BTW, my rear deck still rattles even with "Dynamat" on both sides. Still couldn't find a permanent solution.
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#112
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Please disregard what I have said about not being impressed with the Daytons. I guess I made a premature review based on the rear door installation. Now that I have them installed on all 4 doors, it is a night/day difference and I am very happy with the results.
Now I have only the Sub and the rear doors twitters stock from the Audi SS. Planning to try the 6-hole Pioneer to mount on the OEM subwoofer bracket for a cleaner installation and see how it performs without an amp. Any thoughts?
BTW, my rear deck still rattles even with "Dynamat" on both sides. Still couldn't find a permanent solution.
Now I have only the Sub and the rear doors twitters stock from the Audi SS. Planning to try the 6-hole Pioneer to mount on the OEM subwoofer bracket for a cleaner installation and see how it performs without an amp. Any thoughts?
BTW, my rear deck still rattles even with "Dynamat" on both sides. Still couldn't find a permanent solution.
#113
I needed to bend part of the rear deck hole and also cut a piece of it. Didn't want or plan to do that but the car is now almost 5yo and it has to have some scar.
To my taste, the system is now very well balanced and has a great stage, so I won't add an amp to it. The clumsy OEM subwoofer was messing up everything, kind of jamming the Daytons.
The rattles from the rear deck are almost totally gone (added some extra padding), and I could increase the Bass control from the MMI. This made the Daytons increase a lot in performance.
Thanks for all your help!
#114
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How's the JBL handle very deep bass say to 30hz? It didn't model super well down there in simulation but simulations aren't always perfect in free air. Curious to hear how it actually sounds.
#115
Aurum cantus mid woofer choices for b&o door
Maybe a custom 1.15" (29.2mm) thick spacer would work with the AP 8 WOOFER, which has a 2.6" (66mm) depth?
It looks like a thinner 200mm adapter spacer & more shallow 8" mid-woofer would be best for this application to use the 8" front door driver. The custom stereo install that was installed by http://www.audioxinc.com/ for "mumbles", used a custom 1" thick spacer for the 8" driver in the front door. It is apparently two 1/2 inch pieces of acrylic according to mumbles.
In that case the Audio Development W800NEO 8" mid-woofer that was used with the custom 1" spacer was only 2.2" deep.
It looks like a thinner 200mm adapter spacer & more shallow 8" mid-woofer would be best for this application to use the 8" front door driver. The custom stereo install that was installed by http://www.audioxinc.com/ for "mumbles", used a custom 1" thick spacer for the 8" driver in the front door. It is apparently two 1/2 inch pieces of acrylic according to mumbles.
In that case the Audio Development W800NEO 8" mid-woofer that was used with the custom 1" spacer was only 2.2" deep.
After much success and lots of failures, I’m pretty much done with the sub and the center mid.
Granted, I was to zealous, and ordered way too many parts that I didn’t need. However, In the end @Bruce _Miranda has been super helpful and took the time in helping me find the right solutions.
But I’ve come to stand still on the door mid woofer. From the forum, it’s suggested that Aurum Cantus 6.5 c2c have been renowned for this situation. BUT, they’re unbelievably hard to find. The next option is the Ck (not C2C) which is more available, less expensive, and has almost the same specs as the C2c. There are even websites that advertised them as in the same.
So, has anyone had the experience of using the cks and what did you think?
#116
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Thread Starter
In a car environment you aren't going to be able to tell the difference between a AC165 50C2C or the AC165 50CK. Infact if you listen to your music at a reasonable level and never at prolonged deafening levels then the normal AC165 will do absolutely fine too.
#117
Not really well at <~30hz to be honest. But I think I had set my expectations fairly well for a stock amp and an open mounted SW. I can still say for sure that I am very pleased with the final result delivered. Planning next to add the SW control to the MMI. Need to learn how to code or pay $100.
#118
B&O replacement
Bruce thank you for my dash kit and tweeters! They sound great! Will installing the door speakers once they arrived.
Question on my 2014 S5 Cabriolet, now that I have the outer dash and door tweeters done, should I do the two rear since I am doing the front doors?
I already have a separate amp and sub box installed. The rear and the center dash would be the only one left to replace
Question on my 2014 S5 Cabriolet, now that I have the outer dash and door tweeters done, should I do the two rear since I am doing the front doors?
I already have a separate amp and sub box installed. The rear and the center dash would be the only one left to replace
#119
AudiWorld Super User
Thread Starter
You dont need to but you should consider it. The fader control allows you to get some nice rear fill in the car and in that case, you should have that sound coming out through some better speakers and tweeters.
#120
On another note, after buying 4 ohm mid-woofers (Hertz C165 L) for my front doors, I took my door panels off to discover that the woofers in my Q5 are labeled as 2 ohms, not 4 ohms. Ugh! So my front speakers are actually 2 ohm woofers and 8 ohm tweeters with the 4 ohm center. I checked the rear doors and they use 4 ohm woofers, so I guess I'll put the Hertz in my rear doors.. options for 2 ohm woofers for my front doors are pretty limited though. So annoying that Audi uses such a mashup of different speaker impedances! I'm assuming I could replace my 2 ohm woofers with 4 ohms, but they'd be much quieter than they should be?
Last edited by talisto; 07-04-2023 at 10:52 AM.