Boost Function Etron?
Now on to your questions. Short answer: the 1st e-Tron was purchased in June 2019 and was bought back by Audi in January 2020. We decided to roll the dice again and got an identical e-Tron and are now pursuing full Lemon Law (translation, we have an attorney) since the car has had multiple issues and currently has been at the dealer for 70 days straight with no end in sight.
Audi dragged their feet in both occasions and the by back was certainly to their advantage financially but I was OK with that at the time since I felt like in the end it would be less hassle. Having 2 cars in a row of the same model that are truly lemons though has me singing a different tune this time. If you want, I can go into a lot more detail on the process. If you end up going through it, you will have to fight hard for what you want. The first several offers on the buyback were terrible and that was in a situation where we were planning to buy another Audi. I chose to use an attorney for this one simply because I don’t want deal with the hassle of the battle. Especially when in this case it is a clear Lemon Law car (actually for both cars) but they will still fight I am sure.
To be clear we have owned several other Audis and I have had no issues with any of their ICE cars. In fact they have all been wonderful. This is a generation 1 product for them and as such it has significant growing pains. Unless the deep discounts they are offering is worth it to you I would wait for a true 2nd gen car from them (not the eTron fastback) or look at another manufacturer (assuming you are determined to buy a BEV).
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Now on to your questions. Short answer: the 1st e-Tron was purchased in June 2019 and was bought back by Audi in January 2020. We decided to roll the dice again and got an identical e-Tron and are now pursuing full Lemon Law (translation, we have an attorney) since the car has had multiple issues and currently has been at the dealer for 70 days straight with no end in sight.
Audi dragged their feet in both occasions and the by back was certainly to their advantage financially but I was OK with that at the time since I felt like in the end it would be less hassle. Having 2 cars in a row of the same model that are truly lemons though has me singing a different tune this time. If you want, I can go into a lot more detail on the process. If you end up going through it, you will have to fight hard for what you want. The first several offers on the buyback were terrible and that was in a situation where we were planning to buy another Audi. I chose to use an attorney for this one simply because I don’t want deal with the hassle of the battle. Especially when in this case it is a clear Lemon Law car (actually for both cars) but they will still fight I am sure.
To be clear we have owned several other Audis and I have had no issues with any of their ICE cars. In fact they have all been wonderful. This is a generation 1 product for them and as such it has significant growing pains. Unless the deep discounts they are offering is worth it to you I would wait for a true 2nd gen car from them (not the eTron fastback) or look at another manufacturer (assuming you are determined to buy a BEV).
That being said: sell the car and move on. Spewing vitriol on forums is not going to make it better.
BW5
Check out:
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...again-3003701/
and
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...again-2988739/
for some real E-tron owner feedback. Yes, it's not perfect, but it's pretty damn good.
Also, this just came out from arguably the most respected BEV Youtuber (TeslaBjorn) and it's overall highly complimentary to the E-tron, especially when you see what the other BEV options are.
And... If there is ever any doubt as to the exceptional quality of the E-tron's battery / charging infrastructure, check this out:
Hope that helps!
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Yeah....I feel for you jphouston and others. it surely stinks.
this one is a bot of a sticky decision for me.
first year issue for the car can always be a bit troubling
relatively small number sold....but i think that is easily explained by the MSRP and range compared to tesla at a lower price (well, the model Y that I'm comparing anyway)
the rigid oem software
dealing with traditional dealers
but it does look and ride very nice and odds are that negative posts will outweigh the good no matter what.....
and it's one of the few BEV that can tow.
and incentives and dealer's willingness to deal make the price more attractive just now.
so....
Yeah....I feel for you jphouston and others. it surely stinks.
this one is a bot of a sticky decision for me.
first year issue for the car can always be a bit troubling
relatively small number sold....but i think that is easily explained by the MSRP and range compared to tesla at a lower price (well, the model Y that I'm comparing anyway)
the rigid oem software
dealing with traditional dealers
but it does look and ride very nice and odds are that negative posts will outweigh the good no matter what.....
and it's one of the few BEV that can tow.
and incentives and dealer's willingness to deal make the price more attractive just now.
so....
And, I'm a dedicated German car person, so not at all unbiased and only one voice on the intra-webs...
As far as highway range goes, you really need to put this into perspective: the Audi listed range is (typical of the German car companies) conservative. The listed Tesla ranges are the opposite: absolute best cases.
Real world efficiencies (and hence, effective highway ranges) are only about 10% different (they are better in terms of the Model X vs. the E-tron for sure). the flip side is that there are other things such as the far superior creature comforts in the E-tron, it's absolutely dialed AWD (e-tron is phenomenal in the snow if that's important to you), amazing climate control and the fact that winter range degradation is minimal. I'm not saying that there aren't differences, but they're no where as big as they're made out to be.
The E-tron is the first step for VAG and already the MY21 product is delivering 8-10% increased range over the MY2019 with almost zero actual hardware changes. It all just depends what your priorities are. You can see from the same Teslabjorn videos that the new Porchase Taycan is actually (in specific configurations) approaching Tesla Model 3 ranges which is pretty awesome.
These are not true double blind tests, but they are probably close enough to real world that they're going to be relatively accurate. Seems like VAG actually does have a bit of a clue as to what they are doing with BEVs.
Good luck with your decision!
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