Technical specifications - mistake
02-11-2018, 04:24 AM
#11
AudiWorld Super User
Thread Starter
Yeah, not in the US.
In the US, there is something called SAE J1100 standard that is supposed to be used for providing cargo volume and vehicle dimensions, but apparently there are multiple versions of it, and some of it is left up to vehicle manufacturer's interpretation - and you can be sure they're going to use it to their utmost advantage. And that's just in the US. I'm sure EU has its own standards that possibly differ from US.
https://www.cars.com/articles/cargo-...1420696442243/
https://www.cars.com/articles/2014/0...tch-the-truth/
So yeah, it's a big clusterf***.
In the US, there is something called SAE J1100 standard that is supposed to be used for providing cargo volume and vehicle dimensions, but apparently there are multiple versions of it, and some of it is left up to vehicle manufacturer's interpretation - and you can be sure they're going to use it to their utmost advantage. And that's just in the US. I'm sure EU has its own standards that possibly differ from US.
https://www.cars.com/articles/cargo-...1420696442243/
https://www.cars.com/articles/2014/0...tch-the-truth/
So yeah, it's a big clusterf***.
Which standard is applied to Q3 and which on A4 and A6 ????
02-11-2018, 04:27 AM
#12
AudiWorld Expert
No idea. Q3 could be a car/hatchback or it could be an SUV. Manufacturers in the US play all kinds of games with classification because different vehicle segments follow different CAFE/fuel economy requirements.
Also, I forgot to mention, some vehicle manufacturers in the US include under-floor storage in their definition of cargo volume.
Also, I forgot to mention, some vehicle manufacturers in the US include under-floor storage in their definition of cargo volume.
02-11-2018, 04:34 AM
#13
AudiWorld Super User
Thread Starter
No idea. Q3 could be a car/hatchback or it could be an SUV. Manufacturers in the US play all kinds of games with classification because different vehicle segments follow different CAFE/fuel economy requirements.
Also, I forgot to mention, some vehicle manufacturers in the US include under-floor storage in their definition of cargo volume.
Also, I forgot to mention, some vehicle manufacturers in the US include under-floor storage in their definition of cargo volume.
As far as possible, the A5 Sportback in the US has 21.8 cu-ft = 617 lit and RoW is 480 lit = 17 cu-ft
02-11-2018, 04:42 AM
#14
AudiWorld Expert
A4 and A6 should be classified as passenger cars, so only the volume below the shelf should count.
Based on these numbers, my guess is in the US they are counting the entire volume all the way to the ceiling while in RoW they are only counting the volume below the shelf.
As far as possible, the A5 Sportback in the US has 21.8 cu-ft = 617 lit and RoW is 480 lit = 17 cu-ft
02-11-2018, 05:44 AM
#15
AudiWorld Super User
Thread Starter
A4 and A6 should be classified as passenger cars, so only the volume below the shelf should count.
Based on these numbers, my guess is in the US they are counting the entire volume all the way to the ceiling while in RoW they are only counting the volume below the shelf.
Based on these numbers, my guess is in the US they are counting the entire volume all the way to the ceiling while in RoW they are only counting the volume below the shelf.
Something's wrong with your calculation :
- A6 RoW standard is 530 lit in USA version 14.1 cu-ft ( 400 lit )
-A4 RoW standard is 480 lit in US version 13 cu-ft ( 368 lit )
-A8 RoW standard is 505 lit in US version 14.3 (404 lit)
02-11-2018, 06:13 AM
#16
AudiWorld Expert
In the US, the new A4 comes with a full size spare wheel. Is it possible the remaining cargo space is smaller because of this? I think EU only gets a space-saver type spare.
I mean, I don't know why the numbers are different. I am just throwing out possibilities, trying to help you with your question. I don't work for Audi. Please don't shoot me.
All I'm trying to say is that it's probably not a 'mistake'. It's a result of either different trunk configurations or using different measurement methodologies in different markets.
I mean, I don't know why the numbers are different. I am just throwing out possibilities, trying to help you with your question. I don't work for Audi. Please don't shoot me.
All I'm trying to say is that it's probably not a 'mistake'. It's a result of either different trunk configurations or using different measurement methodologies in different markets.
Last edited by ex-quattro PETE; 02-11-2018 at 06:22 AM.
02-11-2018, 06:38 AM
#17
AudiWorld Super User
Thread Starter
In RoW regardless of whether you have a spare tire or not , cargo space is listed capacity
In some models, the luggage compartment is larger by 40%, in others it is lower by 30% in some models they are the same . Strange standards of measurement
I think you should respect what the car manufacturer wrote in the specifications of the car
In some models, the luggage compartment is larger by 40%, in others it is lower by 30% in some models they are the same . Strange standards of measurement
I think you should respect what the car manufacturer wrote in the specifications of the car
Last edited by spijun; 02-11-2018 at 06:45 AM.
02-11-2018, 06:50 AM
#18
AudiWorld Expert
02-11-2018, 10:35 AM
#19
AudiWorld Super User
Without being sure on my Q5 there is a secret space in the boot above the battery compartmen and below the boot floor. Might be that that this secret space is boot space, or it is measured as a boot space depending on region.
02-11-2018, 03:50 PM
#20
AudiWorld Expert
Yes, if you are asking about A5 sportback specifically, because if I am not mistaken, in that car the rear shelf is removable, so theoretically you could carry a taller object, all the way to the ceiling.
In the A4/A6 that rear shelf is not removable, so the space above it is not counted toward trunk/cargo space.
In the A4/A6 that rear shelf is not removable, so the space above it is not counted toward trunk/cargo space.