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#221
AudiWorld Senior Member
The reason it's a refundable deposit is because the Q7 is an easy sell if the buyer changes his mind. Also if I dealer does not refund a deposit it could be very ugly for them when word gets around that they will not refund a deposit and dealers do not need a bad reputation.
#222
AudiWorld Senior Member
Um....a deposits and signed purchase contract is your intent of purchase. If you want to back out of an agreement then you don't deserve your money back. If you want to make arrangements to buy a car without a deposit with your dealer thats cool, but when you sign an order and put money down I don't see why you as a customer would expect your deposit to be returned. That's common sense. I've sold hundreds and hundreds of luxury cars, and I've never once had a customer raise a concern about not refunding a deposit should they cancel the order. If you are that "iffy" about the purchase then don't sing a purchase order and put money down. That's not the dealer being mean, that's just good business practice (and common across the country). I would never expect to get my deposit back on a special order car!!! Why would I deserve that?
#223
AudiWorld Senior Member
I sold luxury cars for years.....who tells a customer that a deposit is refundable?!? Why would it be under normal circumstances? When you order a car it's because you are buying it and the dealer is taking into inventory an additional car he would not normally have. A despots is a down payment on the car you purchase, and you sign a purchase order at the time of order. It's very foreign to me to think that you can just order a car, put down a deposit and then cancel your order and walk away at any time.....what is the point of signing a purchase order and leaving money then? In all my years I have never seen someone order a car and then cancel and get there money back.....it's YOUR ordered car, with signed paperwork and partial payment made. I guess some areas do it different, but it seems pretty weird to me and certainly is at the peril of the dealership to operate as such. I mean, there is customer service, and then there is normal business practices...
Mental note: Never buy a new car in Iowa lol
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#224
AudiWorld Super User
Um....a deposits and signed purchase contract is your intent of purchase. If you want to back out of an agreement then you don't deserve your money back. If you want to make arrangements to buy a car without a deposit with your dealer thats cool, but when you sign an order and put money down I don't see why you as a customer would expect your deposit to be returned. That's common sense. I've sold hundreds and hundreds of luxury cars, and I've never once had a customer raise a concern about not refunding a deposit should they cancel the order. If you are that "iffy" about the purchase then don't sing a purchase order and put money down. That's not the dealer being mean, that's just good business practice (and common across the country). I would never expect to get my deposit back on a special order car!!! Why would I deserve that?
#225
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The reason it's a refundable deposit is because the Q7 is an easy sell if the buyer changes his mind. Also if I dealer does not refund a deposit it could be very ugly for them when word gets around that they will not refund a deposit and dealers do not need a bad reputation.
#226
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I had to place a a deposit to hold the order, it was probably allocated for already and just got reserved for me. At that time I've been asking if the deposit is refundable just in case the deal doesn't push through (unavoidable circumstances). My salesperson told me yes. Of course everything went smoothly. I was only able to get 3% then and found out more is being offered by other dealerships. I didn't bother getting the additional 1 or 2% discount.
Prior to this, I test drove one that was originally ordered but the person didn't proceed with the sale (different dealer) due to some issues. The car was offered to me instead but I told them I'll think about it. After a day it got sold.
On a car like this that's on demand, I'm pretty sure they will have no problem selling it. Might be a different case if it's not on demand.
Prior to this, I test drove one that was originally ordered but the person didn't proceed with the sale (different dealer) due to some issues. The car was offered to me instead but I told them I'll think about it. After a day it got sold.
On a car like this that's on demand, I'm pretty sure they will have no problem selling it. Might be a different case if it's not on demand.
#228
AudiWorld Senior Member
Your argument doesn't hold true that "they will just sell the car"....that might be easier to do on a very popular model like the current Q7, but it certainly affects inventory volumes and availably of ordering other cars (some of which may be custom orders for sold cars but unable to be obtained because of limited quantities and leading to a missed sale).
You can poke fun all you want, but I worked in this industry for many years and was in charge of helping to manage/control orders and inventories. I can assure you that just because you think it's common practice doesn't make it so... I also can understand that your location is different than in Iowa, where there are only 3 Audi dealers in the entire state (meaning inventory level and availability must be closely managed).
I guess you can poke fun and ridicule me if you want, but it doesn't seem like an overly-friendly way to have a conversation on a forum. And since you don't have first-hand experience in running a car dealership (as opposed to my background) I'm gonna say we have different views for different reasons. It's a little bit of a different understanding when you are in charge of managing, selling and servicing thousands of cars and not just a single-Audi owner. We certainly can have different opinions for different reasons, but I'd expect you to be respectful. I could try and explain why you don't seem to understand the entire process clearly, but I'm not going to waste my time if you aren't going to respectfully listen. My current Audi dealership has a row of unsold Q7's, and yet they say they are missing out on sales due to not enough inventory. Care to explain how that works? The answer is in direct opposition to many of the comments made here.
You can poke fun all you want, but I worked in this industry for many years and was in charge of helping to manage/control orders and inventories. I can assure you that just because you think it's common practice doesn't make it so... I also can understand that your location is different than in Iowa, where there are only 3 Audi dealers in the entire state (meaning inventory level and availability must be closely managed).
I guess you can poke fun and ridicule me if you want, but it doesn't seem like an overly-friendly way to have a conversation on a forum. And since you don't have first-hand experience in running a car dealership (as opposed to my background) I'm gonna say we have different views for different reasons. It's a little bit of a different understanding when you are in charge of managing, selling and servicing thousands of cars and not just a single-Audi owner. We certainly can have different opinions for different reasons, but I'd expect you to be respectful. I could try and explain why you don't seem to understand the entire process clearly, but I'm not going to waste my time if you aren't going to respectfully listen. My current Audi dealership has a row of unsold Q7's, and yet they say they are missing out on sales due to not enough inventory. Care to explain how that works? The answer is in direct opposition to many of the comments made here.
#229
AudiWorld Senior Member
I find this quite a mean-spirited comment, and why you have made it I have no clue. Clearly you are not understanding what point I am trying to make. If you want to try and disagree with someone that has worked in this industry for years, I'm not exactly what special insight you have that I do not that makes you an expert. Logic suggest it would be the exact opposite.....
#230
AudiWorld Senior Member
I have 1 of 16 cars in my color combination in the USA. Cleary it's not something most dealers are going to stock. Would I really expect to cancel my order and get my money back and stick the dealer with an "odd-ball" car and think that would be fair? This is why there are deposits, signed purchase agreements and a clear understandings of how things work. Popular model or not, I don't see how a consumer finds it fair to tell someone they are purchasing something, and then just back out and feel there should be no penalty for not honoring your commitment. I mean, you don't buy a house or make other purchases in this manner.... Clearly there are very different expectations in different market areas.
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