BluLytNin

My friend, who has driven my S (driving experience explained in my post below) swears the S60 T5, would be a match for the S. And I strongly believe there is no chance for the Volvo, so I don't even bother arguing with this guy. Now at Edmunds.com, I looked over the HP & Torque #'s and they seem to be in the same range for both vehicles. Although the Volvo has a smaller 2.3L and it's lighter by ~300+lbs, why is the Volvo SO much slower in the 0-60MPH times?

NASA racer

paging GRocky...mr. GRocky to the Volvo post please.

Gop-Dogg

Thus, off the line, it gets beaten while waiting for boost. Once you are off and running (with the turbos spinning), I think the Volvo will hold up to the S4.

Saabs are very similar in this respect. My sister's 900 SE Turbo has major turbo lag that leads to very slingshot-style driving at low speeds. But at highway speed, it has great passing power, since the turbos are already going.

NASA racer

it's also a 5-speed isn't it? Gear ratios make a HUGE difference.

rdrunner9

Can't remember the name. But They had the S60 T5 and compared it to Mercedes C320, BMW 330, etc... No S4 there. That should tell you something.

My impression about the S60... Quite a bit of turbo lag, suspensions are too soft for my taste. I prefer the smoother power of two small turbos of the S4 over one bigger turbo. It sucks when the power surges on together with torque steer when you are in the middle of a turn.

My $.02.

TTS_4_to_A6

and that thing can keep up with the S at highway speeds, but the S would still win and from a start, there is no contest S is best. I was a lucky owner of that car, and I say lucky because I couldn't find one then. I picked it up from the Nanuette NY Volvo dealership and had to pay a bundle, more than the S. At low end, it lacks power due to serious turbo lag, you feel like there are mice on a treadmill until 3500 rpm, then it is a different story. The turbo used is larger than ours, requiring significantly more spool-up time, add that we have 2, there is no comparison. The Volvo is nice, but lacks Audi's attention to detail in all aspects.

TTS_4_to_A6

Don't forget the spongy steering

adp

I'd say the 850 R with a chip is fastest yet..

TTS_4_to_A6

The S is more powerful.

Zaid

I drove an S60 auto and it seemed butt slow to me. But that was AFTER I bought the S4.


Zaid